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    Bulking help

    Hi guys I'm new to the forum and could really use your help. Here is my situation. I participate in college athletics and i am at a point where i need to bulk up and gain weight to compete. Now to make it clear i have tried every other means and steroids are a last resort. I eat five or six times a day and lift hard and heavy six times a week. My biggest problem is that i have several serious stomach issues such as irritable bowel syndrome, rapid transit, and an excess of bacteria in my gut that allow me to absorb only a fraction of what i eat. I have seen doctors about this for years and they can help a little but nothing that cures it.

    At this point i have decided i need to do some sort of bulking cycle. However, due to random drug testing for my sport i need to tread carefully. I am wondering if you guys could reccomend something that is good for bulking that idealy gets out of the system quick and i do not have to stay on very long? Also, if you could give me an idea of how long they will be in my sytstem that would be great.

    Also, I have researched this on my own and even tried winstrol and hgh because of worries about getting tested, but obviously those are not great bulkers and i am asking you guys cuz you know best.

    Thanks a Ton!

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    Welcome to the board. What are your current stats?

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    i am 22 years old, 6' 1", 176lbs, and around 3% body fat.

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    Welcome! When I'm bulking it helps to cut down my workouts. Instead of 6x per week try 3. Only big compound movements and only 1 hr per workout. If you can't get nutrients absorbed u will have trouble gaining weight especially if ur burning up all those cals during ur workouts, doesn't leave your body any energy to grow. Not sure if steroids will help if your diet is lacking. I would suggest posting your digestion problems up in the nutrition forum see if anyone has experience with that

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    Seriously 3%?? How did u come up with that number

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    Quote Originally Posted by tall76 View Post
    Seriously 3%?? How did u come up with that number
    Thanks for the reply but i really am looking for specifics on bulkers. As i said i have tried all other options and have decided this is what i am going to do. And you can doubt the 3% all you want but that number is from underwater body fat testing at our university exercise science department. Like i said, i have seroius stomach and intestine issues that cuase me to be very very lean (hence the reason i am looking for a bulker).

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    You still need nutrients to gain mass even on steroids .

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    Quote Originally Posted by tall76 View Post
    You still need nutrients to gain mass even on steroids.
    obviously. And i am getting all the nutrients i can get or ever will get with my stomach issues. Might not be getting as much as is ideal but getting as much as i can. Agian, looking for advice on bulkers here not your eduacation on diet/nutrition as i know enough about that.

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    Also, i am trying to stay away from injectibles as i have roomates that would make it tough. I know propionate has a shorter detection time and was wondering if it was available in cream form. I ask this because i have used cypionate in cream form and had great results but the detection time is too long on that for my comfort.

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    More food is your only option to suit your posted goals.

    edit: and yes, I know that's not what you want to hear.
    Last edited by HitIt; 12-27-2011 at 02:42 PM.

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    Well bro if you cant gain it with food you wont keep it with aas.And besides that you are to young for aas.Your endo system isnt fully developed.And the use of aas could have life long effects.And not good ones.And oral cycles are next to worthless.Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HitIt View Post
    More food is your only option to suit your posted goals.
    Guys, like i said i am eating six times a day, more food is not an option. I need to add something to this to give me that extra edge. I have researched and tried every other option. And i know steroids will help, because as i said i had great results with the cypionate cream. However, cypionate has too long of a detection time. If you dont want to point me in the right direction to a bulker that suits my needs that is fine, but please save the more food better nutrition lecure as that is not what i am looking for/need.

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    Ok bro good luck- I've been doing this diet/ nutrition thing for a long time and I still learn new things to help me all the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by tall76 View Post
    Ok bro good luck- I've been doing this diet/ nutrition thing for a long time and I still learn new things to help me all the time
    Am totaly open to learning new things but the fact remians that with my stomach conditions i will never really get better nutrition than i am currently (doctors words). Maybe i was too confusing with my initial post. I would love to do this with just diet and exercise but have tried every form of that for several years to no avail. What i need is something that can help me make better use of what nutrition i am getting. Also, this is would not be my first time using. I have used the cream with good results before so i know it will work ( i know the cream is not considered a good steroid but it goes to show that with my stomach issues even a little help goes a long ways). What i really want to know is what i could take to bulk that will work with my drug testing situation.

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    how did your blood work look after using the test cream?

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    I eat 8 meals aday and use hyperbolic mass by usn its for hard gainers and I've had great results gone from 10stone to 13.7stone with 7% body fat eat hard train hard its the only way im currently tryin sd matrix but im only on day 4 so il let U know how they go after first bottle good luck mate

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    If you're competing and being randomly drug tested then steroids are not for you. The tests they use catch just about everything. Especially If you're at a D1 level. The weight gain won't be worth it when you get caught. Pick up a something for hard gainers, do this clean as long as you're competing.

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