The urge to jump back on cycle.....feeling down, weak after first cycle

**Bowtye8** · 02-09-2012, 06:03 PM

Finished my first cycle about 5 weeks ago.
I did 12 weeks of Andropen 275. It lasted a few extra week becuase my first 2 weeks I was pinning .5ml twice a week. Then went to 1ml 2x week.

40yrs old -weighed in at 233 begining of cycle and ended at 252.
LOVED every minute of it!!!!!! Worked out extra hard. Very happy with the gains. No sides. Did liq dex.

Currently on liq nolva- started 14days after last pin. 40ml everyday for 2 weeks and just reduced to 20ml everyday.

I know when I was on mentally has alot to do with it. Lifting heavier weights, shirts getting tighter, Arm felt rock hard all day, compliments, Sex was great!!.....Cloud 9

Now I wish I could jump back on... Feeling weak at the gym...lost 5lbs. I know some or most of it is mental. I will tuff it out!

I am going to finish my PCT and look at a 2nd cycle for late spring. I already have 2 more bottles(androphen 275) will look to pick up a third to go for a longer cycle 14-16 weeks.
Will post a new thread for sencond cycle opinion. MAybe add some deca . (still have a few strength goals not met)

Thanks All. Great site with great info!

**c-Z** · 02-09-2012, 06:15 PM

Time on + time off w the exception of blood work. Coming off is the hardest thing.... Hence why so many people abuse. They cant take the negative effects of it. No matter what you will loose gains. Eat hard and train harder! Cheer mat

It is mental. Im stronger right now then when i cycled a year ago...

**FONZY007** · 02-09-2012, 06:18 PM

Are you only using Nolva for pct? You will lose a little but if everything is done right you should keep most.. Trust me brother I love the feeling too lol!!

**titan13** · 02-09-2012, 06:22 PM

Are you only running nolva for PCT? Might want to run clomid to get the boys back up and running. Also might look into HCG durring cycle next time. Sooner you get back to normal the sooner you can get back on aas. Keep workin hard it will get better man PCT sucks.( beat me to the nolva question lol)

**Noles12** · 02-09-2012, 06:24 PM

Going into a cycle you have to realize you will not keep all of your gains. It is hard coming off and being on feels much better but its not worth it to go back on to soon. Recovery is vital to maintain what you have just built.

A good protocol is time on+PCT=Time off. If you choose to start any sooner i would recommend geting blood work to ensure you are completely recovered

**OnTheSauce** · 02-09-2012, 06:37 PM

When i was on, i didn't notice how much better things were. But now that I'm off, i see how much of a difference it made in so many aspects. Like they say, sometimes you dont know until its gone....

**Bowtye8** · 02-09-2012, 07:02 PM

Thanks all!!! Really ...It helps to hear I am not out of my mind and it part of the results.

I will follow the off cycle requirment.
titan13- Yes I am only taking liq nolva at this time.

Mental part is....I am not on cycle so those weights look heavy....if I was on I would be moving up 5lbs heavier with those dumbell presses....You all know.....
I still have plenty of learning to do. Will keep reading

**c-Z** · 02-09-2012, 07:21 PM

Clomids not needed.... I will never run that crap. Shit messes w me more then the damn steroids .

**titan13** · 02-09-2012, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by c-Z

Clomids not needed.... I will never run that crap. Shit messes w me more then the damn steroids.

you dont recomend anything else with PCT , Or you just dont like clomid? Nolva only seems to be a week pct.

**DeadlyD** · 02-09-2012, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by c-Z

Clomids not needed.... I will never run that crap. Shit messes w me more then the damn steroids.

What effect does clomid have on you? Just curious.

**FONZY007** · 02-10-2012, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by titan13

you dont recomend anything else with PCT , Or you just dont like clomid? Nolva only seems to be a week pct.

Add tore than if no clomid!

**jasc** · 02-10-2012, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by FONZY007

Add tore than if no clomid!

x2 Torem is great.. used it last cycle with no sides..

Originally Posted by Bowtye8

Currently on liq nolva- started 14days after last pin. 40ml everyday for 2 weeks and just reduced to 20ml everyday.

that post cycle must be costing you a fortune.. we normally run 40mg.. 40ml may be a bit high

**FONZY007** · 02-11-2012, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by jasc

x2 Torem is great.. used it last cycle with no sides..

that post cycle must be costing you a fortune.. we normally run 40mg.. 40ml may be a bit high

Lol fvckn jasc....

**Bowtye8** · 02-12-2012, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by jasc

that post cycle must be costing you a fortune.. we normally run 40mg.. 40ml may be a bit high

Yea... Am really trying to kickstart the boys down there

Heck...The bottle is only 30ml. Good Catch Running 25mg now

**vici** · 02-12-2012, 08:19 AM

I dont look forward to this feeling after my first cycle is complete....

**magicstick2003** · 02-12-2012, 09:11 AM

pct always is tough. I've always done nolva clomid but everyone has their opinions on pct and there's so many diff compounds and methods to use. just keep eating and pushing yourself you'll have to accept the fact you'll lose a little bit but if you keep up the intensity you'll get through it with maximum gains kept. best of luck