How effective is test for cutting?

[oatmeal69]

So it seems the consensus is that in itself, Test (or any other AAS) doesn't actually CUT fat. It helps you maintain muscle mass while you use diet (calorie deficit) and cardio to actually cut the fat.
In other words, no shortcuts. One still MUST diet and train correctly.

[JohnnyVegas]

I read that injected test increases metabolism (burning more calories) and increases the percentage of calories burned from fat. I was only saying that wasn't the PRIMARY effect I used it for. There are no HUGE shortcuts.

[gearbox]

I wasn't saying it didn't help with fat loss, I was saying it wasn't magic. I don't rely on it for fat loss, I still need to do lots of cardio. Mostly I meant that people shouldn't use AAS as a diet tool. The OP said his goal was to shed a small amount of abdominal fat while maintaining his current weight. I thought doing a cycle for that was overkill.

Hopefully you aren't taking my comment to mean it zero effect on fat loss. That isn't what I meant at all...I stated that my last cut went very well.

Crap, in explaining myself it sounds like I am arguing. I'm not.

I got what your saying and I agree with everything and op is like many others that need to push extra hard with diet and if cardio for to lose those last few.

[SEOINAGE]

Can I make a suggestion or post an idea for you? Why not continue being natural for now and work on getting cut like you desire for summer. And then maintain it through the fall then bulk in the winter with your first cycle when you can maximize the muscle gained? Then next year you can get all cut up again and look even better for summer? If that is what you are after. I dunno unless you don't want a lot of muscle, but 200 lbs and 8% bf is a pretty good amount of muscle you would need to put on, so give it time. Unless like someone mentioned earlier, if you have low test cutting will be harder.

[spainer11]

Personaly if your looking to cut i would go straight to HARD work on your diet and had MORE cardio ... all the gear will do is help your result but it really comes down to diet

[hankdiesel]

hank this is exactly what I want to do. did you do your first cycle on a calorie deficit? 6 small meals a day?

I ate 5-7 reasonably sized meals every day. That was the first time I ever did that. Protein and carb in each one. The last meal or two was protein and green veg.

[jamotech]

I have always thought (maybe incorrectly) that the primary reason to use Test while cutting it to help keep mass while in a calorie deficit and doing a lot of cardio. I wish fat disappeared like magic when I injected something (anything), but haven't found anything yet.

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[jamotech]

^ This should be your only expectation of testosterone while cutting.

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[jamotech]

The OP said his goal was to shed a small amount of abdominal fat while maintaining his current weight. I thought doing a cycle for that was overkill.

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[jamotech]

You're right man. I thought these guys were smarter. My first cycle ever I gained no weight. I was exactly the same weight the day I started it and when I started my pct. My body however changed more than I ever thought possible. My diet was spot on and I did cardio. I got veiny, hard, and looked way bigger. It was test cyp only.

No one said your body composition wouldnt change on test only??? Just saying a test cycle isnt needed to cut a small portion of ab fat?

[jpowell]

this guy has to realize everybody is different and not going to work out the same. as in his post he was given the same info. it seems like he just wants to hear the words yes do it or watevr. man u have to devote time and energy into this forum. wat worked him or him is not gonna work for u. yes any test u run will make u grow and also more muscle will burn fat. thas a given. its not magic, he's doing all this over 2 pts? u need to go over to the nutrition section and read!

[jamotech]

The fact anyone is even doubting whether or not you can get cut on Test is a bit perplexing to me. You realize most competitive bodybuilders run high doses of Test up until 1-4 weeks from the day of their show.

I never said you cant get cut on test(I think the type of workout done while on test only will dictate whether you bulk or cut). I'm really just trying to say I wouldnt do test or any AAS to get rid of a small portion of ab fat.

[hankdiesel]

I never said you cant get cut on test(I think the type of workout done while on test only will dictate whether you bulk or cut). I'm really just trying to say I wouldnt do test or any AAS to get rid of a small portion of ab fat.

More like type of diet eaten. I don't think that anyone is saying they want to take test to get rid of a small portion of ab fat.

[JohnnyVegas]

I don't think that anyone is saying they want to take test to get rid of a small portion of ab fat.

Well, here is the original post:

Keep in mind the main reason I want to run this cycle is to shred a small portion of abdominal belly fat on a deficit while maintaining my current weight

[hankdiesel]

Well, here is the original post:

"While maintaining current body weight". That is next to impossible with test or some kind of AAS.

[c-Z]

Diet plays a huge portion whether on or off a cycle... I wouldnt take any aas to cut bellyfat.... Tweak yer diet n hit some cardio n abs

[jamotech]

I thought these guys were smarter. My first cycle ever I gained no weight. I was exactly the same weight the day I started it and when I started my pct. It was test cyp only.

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[jamotech]

"While maintaining current body weight". That is next to impossible with test or some kind of AAS.

ok, now im confused,