Incidentals with first cycle? What's missing?

**Dmitri Diablo** · 02-27-2012, 10:45 PM

First ever Cycle
Test C 400mg x 10/12 weeks w/.25mg liquidex EOD
HCG 250iu 2 x per week until pct starts

PCT
Tamox 40mg/day for a week then 20mg a day for 4 weeks.
Clomi 100mg/day for a week then 50mg a day for 4 weeks.

So I've got the recon of the HCG figured for the dosage I want, with bac water.
I've figured out that I will probably use 23g 1 inch pins for test & hcg. (probably order a 100 for first cycle)

Are there any odds and ends I may need for all of this? Like a bigger syringe for mixing hcg, or something to measure the PCT? What do you guys use?

Thanks

***D7M*** · 02-27-2012, 10:47 PM

um, maybe a larger (20g) pin for drawing, and an oral syringe if your PCT meds are liquid orals.

Otherwise, looks good. Enjoy!

**xelnaga** · 02-27-2012, 10:50 PM

One incidental you need to address is your weight. 5'10 167 is really low to justify needing a cycle.

**Dmitri Diablo** · 02-27-2012, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by xelnaga

One incidental you need to address is your weight. 5'10 167 is really low to justify needing a cycle.

Usually 175. I lost weight when I was sick. I am likely 170 currently. Thx

**Boxtrot** · 02-28-2012, 03:05 AM

Originally Posted by xelnaga

One incidental you need to address is your weight. 5'10 167 is really low to justify needing a cycle.

I dont see the moral in cycling when you've reached a high muscle mass naturally. Either way your cycling steroids . Neither circumstance makes it right when theres risk.

Nobodys going to disown you if u went from average joe to lean muscular in a couple months.

We only live once, what does it really matter in the end?

**stpete** · 02-28-2012, 05:47 AM

Looks fine to me.

**Dmitri Diablo** · 02-28-2012, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Boxtrot

I dont see the moral in cycling when you've reached a high muscle mass naturally. Either way your cycling steroids . Neither circumstance makes it right when theres risk.

Nobodys going to disown you if u went from average joe to lean muscular in a couple months.

We only live once, what does it really matter in the end?

Thanks Boxtrot,

I've never been able to bulk up. My longest attempt was 3 years. I lived at the gym, and in the kitchen. I was up to 178. That's as big as I got, at 27 years old. I wanted to try aas back then, but I knew it would be a bad idea, at such a young age. So I just kept trying! During the three years in the gym, I was lifting weight equil to all the huge guys. I was strong! Just no mass.

I am curious to see what my body will do now! I don't think I'll get very big. If I can hit 185, I'll be excited!