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    Thoughts and Advice

    This is what I am thinking and after doing a ton of reading on here, I have learned that I don't know $@&% that I thought that I did. I am thinking about doing a cycle and wanted to get some feedback. Here is what I am thinking...

    Weeks 1 – 4: D-bol 40mg ED
    Weeks 1 – 10: Cyp 400mg/wk
    Weeks 1 – 12: Nolva 10mg ED
    Weeks 1 – 12: L-dex .25mg ED

    This was one of the cycles for newbies that MUDMAN posted and was thinking that this would be good for me. Look forward to hearing from y'all. Thanks in advance.

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    Sorry forgot to post STATS:

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    I have been lifting and training for about 10 years. Real serious over about the last 5 or 6. I am an extremely hard gainer. My goal is to be about 200lb with about the same BF. I lift about 5 days a week and do cardio about 3. I try to eat as clean as possible but I know that I could eat better.

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    First thing yo uneed to do is post your stats:
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    In that case that is a decent cycle.
    You dont need nolva at 10mg ED through out
    you can extend test C to 12 weeks
    you might want to do ldex .25 EOD (if at all) you might not need it
    HCG at 250iu 2 x per week might be something to consider
    PCT starting 14 days after last pin 4 weeks: Clomid 100mgED/100/50/50 thats mg per day over 4 weeks and nolvadex 40/40/20/20

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    Quote Originally Posted by HavocGuns View Post
    This is what I am thinking and after doing a ton of reading on here, I have learned that I don't know $@&% that I thought that I did. I am thinking about doing a cycle and wanted to get some feedback. Here is what I am thinking...

    Weeks 1 – 4: D-bol 40mg ED
    Weeks 1 – 10: Cyp 400mg/wk
    Test Cyp is a long ester. It's even longer then Test E. Most people run Test Cyp for 12 wks to 14 wks.
    Weeks 1 – 12: Nolva 10mg ED
    I would recommend you wait 19 days before you PCT due to the long ester of Cyp.
    Weeks 1 – 12: L-dex .25mg ED

    This was one of the cycles for newbies that MUDMAN posted and was thinking that this would be good for me. Look forward to hearing from y'all. Thanks in advance.
    Why not just run Test E?

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    Always use an AI. take the Ldex but I would drop the nolva and save it for pct. Don't like to run Nolva during cycle because of the side effects, so I rather deal with it off cycle lol. Otherwise what does your PCT and diet look like?

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    I agree with switching to enanthate instead of cypionate . The difference isn't huge, but it does exist. And when using a long ester as your only test, I agree that you should extend it to 12 weeks instead of 10. Definitely do not use Nolvadex on cycle unless gyno occurs, and the liquidex should definitely be used on cycle (waiting until estrogen is so high that side effects occurs is a horrible idea), but drop it to every other day at most.

    9/10 times, when someone that that they are a hard gainer, it's merely a matter of not eating enough of the right foods. Eat and you will gain, that's the bottom line. You should spend some time in the Nutrition section and adopt a proper bodybuilding diet.

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    ^^^What Brian said.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by oznog6183 View Post
    In that case that is a decent cycle.
    You dont need nolva at 10mg ED through out
    you can extend test C to 12 weeks
    you might want to do ldex .25 EOD (if at all) you might not need it
    HCG at 250iu 2 x per week might be something to consider
    PCT starting 14 days after last pin 4 weeks: Clomid 100mgED/100/50/50 thats mg per day over 4 weeks and nolvadex 40/40/20/20
    i like these changes
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Thanks for the advice, it is awesome. As far as my diet I try to eat as clean as I can. I will for sure will read more in the Nutrition section because I know that I have much to learn. I am going to do some tweaking to my propossed cycle based off of what y'all have said. Again thanks.

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    ^^^^ Great. Gotta have a solid diet in place!

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