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    RAG3 is offline Junior Member
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    2nd cycle- Test Cyp/Tbol/Var- PLEASE CRITIQUE

    Hey guys this will be my second cycle let me know what you think I should change. Thanks!

    23 years old/ 245 lbs / 6'4 / 13% BF/ 6 years Lifting experience

    History: My first cycle was when I was 21, I ran test cyp 600mg ew for 12 weeks with superdrol as a kickstart first 4 weeks. i used Arimidex while on and nolva/clomid for PCT. I had a log for this cycle if you want to check it out look through my posts.

    NEW CYCLE:
    1-12 Test CYP 500mg
    1-12 Liquidex .5mg EOD will up to ED if i see bloat/sides
    1-5 Oral Turinabol 50/60/60/60/60mg
    6-12 Anavar 60 mg ED (was thinking about upping to 80MG last 2 weeks)
    14-18 NOLVA 40/40/20/20
    14-18 CLOMID 100/100/50/50
    HCG On Hand as needed (ANY suggestions?)

    SUPPS:
    Jack3d
    Life Force Multiple Multi- Vitamins
    LIV 52
    Fish oil 1000mg
    Glucosamine HCI 1500mg
    MSM 1500 MG
    Optimum nutrition WHEY protein
    Optimum nutrition CASIEN protein

    Diet: SAME AS FROM MY LAST CYCLE
    Meal 1: 8 Egg whites,and 1 1/2 cups of quick oats OR 3 slices of whole grain bread
    Meal 2: Whey Protien shake with water, and half cup of grinded oats, and a banana OR yam
    WORKOUT : Hour 1/2 after Meal 2
    Meal 3(Post workout): 1 can of dry tuna, and Yam OR banana
    Meal 4: 5 oz. of Grilled Chicken with salsa, or a turkey sandwich on whole wheat bread with lettuce tomato oil+vinegar
    Meal 5: 5 oz. London Broil with franks red hot sauce
    Meal 6: Casein protein shake with fat free milk, and a handful of almonds


    GOALs: To gain quality LEAN MASS (15-20lbs) without a "PUFFY" look and maintain the strength/size i gain after pct.
    Last edited by RAG3; 03-21-2012 at 11:22 AM.

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    DamageDealer is offline Associate Member
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    well, anavar is a cutting steroid , and this is bulking cycle, as far as i understand. unless you're going for a super clean diet, i don't see why you should use it all. maybe it's just my personal dislike of anavar since it's so expensive
    also, HCG should be used on cycle 250IU x2/week

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    DanB is offline Banned
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    HCG 250 i.u from either week 4 to pct or week 1

    personally I would run frim week 1, its cheap and easy so why not?

    the var I would try run 80mg if possible, you will feel 60mg but 80mg is a big step up in effect or it is for me anyway

    your diet could use work though mate, I count 200g max protein there and thats being generous, fair enough it worked for last cycle, but now your heavier and I honestly cant see you getting anywhere near 15-20lbs of LBM from eating like that, if anything its closer to a maintenance diet or even slight cut for your tdee, defo not a bulk

    Not bashing you, just trying point it out, you should post it in nutrition section with macros and your goals and the guys there will improve it to match your goals

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    stpete is offline Banned
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    Looks good to me but agree w/Dan on var dosage and diet.

    Good Luck

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