**************/Superdrol Log -IT'S on!!!

[ilovechoclate]

Day 5:

Shoulders day. **** can I say.....hit those mofos good and had some awesome ass mini tacos today. Corn tortilla but the barbacoa in it was fatty as ****! haha
Said **** it and threw some salt on it. Been restricting my sodium intake and drinking nothing but water. Made sure I got in plenty of cal's today and a bad ass tasting cheat meal so to speak. I could of blotted the **** out of it with napkins but hell, what else you gonna do when people are twisting your arm?


I feel like I'm waiting on a metro bus thats running late and I GATTA GO TO WORK! WTF! WHENS IT GONNA SHOW UP!
WHEN LORD WHEN! ...................WHENS GONNA BE MY TIME!



hah....well I'ma smoke and crash the **** out.

Sorry I got nothing exciting to report guys. But hey....nothing negative either. I wouldn't mind being one of those that respond to SD well later and receive no bad sides from it. Can't complain with that. Listen to me being all positive....sounds like a good note to end it on.

[ilovechoclate]

Day 6:


Leg day. DAMN! Could barley walk afterward. Sweated my ass off. AWESOME workout. Munching on some chicken breast before bed. Wanted to fill you guys in. Even if I have nothing exciting to report I will still post every day. After tomorrow, I'm going to bring the dose up to 30mg. Going to finish out the week with 20mg just in case I see an effect but I'm getting a little impatient as I have not felt ANYTHING different in the slightest. Ya I know...be patient. Well, being there are not negative sides (not even positive for that matter) I will up the dose to 30mg and go from there. Not going past 30mg. If 30mg doesn't do shit then clearly it just needs time to kick in. Either the case.......
a-ree-va-dear-chee or however the **** you spell it.

[havehotasianwife]

do your body a favor and do not up the dose to 30mg. seriously, with superdrol more doesnt equal better results... sorry im coming at you hard on this.. but friends watch out for eachother.

[ilovechoclate]

do your body a favor and do not up the dose to 30mg. seriously, with superdrol more doesnt equal better results... sorry im coming at you hard on this.. but friends watch out for eachother.

Thanks, appreciate it. I'm even following 'bro-science' so to speak and I'm waiting at LEAST 4 hours after my SD dosing before taking my liver-supports.

I'll mull it over.....30mg is the max dose for SD until the only thing kicking in ARE side effects. Even at 30mg acute side effects will start. Perhaps I WILL just hang in there and wait.....

Really wish I would of stacked it WITH the katanadrol to help it kick in quicker, but I wanted to bulk then cut AND see how I react to these compounds individually being its my first cycle.


Will report back later on today's day.

[ilovechoclate]

Day 7: Rest day.....as usual when you crush legs. Tired as hell so I'm going to crash out. Well....not right away. My gals over today so I'll be getting me a weeny washer and then its off to la la land to build ALL KINDS of muscle.

Week 2 starts tomorrow....From all the logs I've read SD kicks in during or just after week 2. w00t! w00t! Also gonna keep it at 20mg. Why increase it if I'm not experincing any bad sides. Lets see what this 2nd week will bring.

[auswest]

I've ran a mdrol clone twice, I really think you should bump it upto to 30mg though. I don't advocate the use of ph's but you're using anyway so I'd suggest 30mg, there is a big difference between 20 and 30, towards the end of week two the fun begins. But if I could hit rewind I never would have messed with ph's the gains arnt the best, I packed the weight on but wasn't very clean or keepable pretty sure I was just getting g fatter but I did not know much about diet back then, just used to stuff my face.
Youve decided to run it so enjoy it and make the most of it, stay healthy. Cycle support supps are a must, and don't take these so called pro hormones lightly a solid pct is required, I was always recommended and ran nolva at 20/20/10/10 with a solid natty booster.

[ilovechoclate]

DAY 8: The start of week 2

I GOT SOMETHING TO REPORT........Got done with my workout. Worked out my back, shoulders and biceps today. Good workout. Didn't swet as much.....made me feel like I didn't lift intense but the gym I went to was an apartment gym and was super tiny and super cold in there so I suppose that explains it. Had an awesome pump and hit the pool afterward. Anyway....here is my week 1 report that will explain my "I got something to report" sentance.


WEEK 1 PROGRESS REPORT:

I gained .6 pounds and lost .4% in body fat. So this tells me I gained a little muscle and lost a little fat. Nothing too significant. Not visualy anyways. I can slightly see my shoulders and arms getting more toned but you have to REALLY look hard to notice. Nothing to dramatic....not yet. HOPING to see it soon and am pretty anxiouse as the next thing I'm about to tell you is pretty much a negative.

For those of you who read my day7 post, you know that last night for me was 'weeny washer night' lol Well my chick said the tip of my johnson was COLD. I noticed it was too. Either the case I couldn't get 'rock hard' .....just flimsy hard. Not a biggie because she knows its to be expected. If you've followed my log since the beginning you will know she even helped contribute financialy to my cycle. THANKS BABE! So am I happy that I can't get rock hard? No....but I'm not upset either. Like I said, it's to be expected. Come to think of it now, since day one when I started I stopped thinking of sex. Didn't frequent the porn sites as usual. Sorry for 'too much info.' heh

Well although the only thing kicking in that is more noticeable is negative, it does give me a glimer of hope that if it has built up enough to produce that negative effect, perhaps the positive is soon long the way. I'm expecting my log to slowly grow more and more interesting. SO STAY TUNED!

[ilovechoclate]

I've ran a mdrol clone twice, I really think you should bump it upto to 30mg though. I don't advocate the use of ph's but you're using anyway so I'd suggest 30mg, there is a big difference between 20 and 30, towards the end of week two the fun begins. But if I could hit rewind I never would have messed with ph's the gains arnt the best, I packed the weight on but wasn't very clean or keepable pretty sure I was just getting g fatter but I did not know much about diet back then, just used to stuff my face.
Youve decided to run it so enjoy it and make the most of it, stay healthy. Cycle support supps are a must, and don't take these so called pro hormones lightly a solid pct is required, I was always recommended and ran nolva at 20/20/10/10 with a solid natty booster.

Ya....diet is key. Thanks for the info about the cycle and post cycle. I really appreciate the support and advice. I have my nolva already on hand but am looking into getting torem as it is a better alternative. The place I get my research nolva from doesn't sell torem so I will have to find a good source. Have plenty of time to do so. Even looking into sending it out to an independent lab to get tested just to verify before PCT starts. Can never be too safe.

Far as upping the dose, I was going too but from my week 1 progress report, I don't want to increase sides. I'm sure the positive will start kicking in with time. I've seen a log where a guy got great gains off a 4 week 20mg ED cycle. If anything I may go up to 30mg for the last 5 days. Gonna play it by ear.

Torem will help with test production and I have HCGenerate as well as Formesanzol for pct along with other goodies. Check out my first post for a more detailed list.

Thanks for the post again.

[havehotasianwife]

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[ilovechoclate]

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Thanks for trying to help. Not in a disrespectful way but any company that helps sponsor a site or board that is promoted by that board as a source isn't 100% trustworthy in my book. I've read they got great customer service but have also read bad things about the actual product. I have plenty of time to find a source as my cycle has just started, and I'm going to send it off to an independent lab to be tested for its validity as well. Just have to get the cash and do a little more research on sources.

[ilovechoclate]

Day 9:



You've just been P-DIDDY'D

[ilovechoclate]

Day 10: Well yesterday I did my homeboys workout just to humor him. Actually was pretty effective as I'm swore today in the muscle groups we worked. Did several hundred different push-ups, some sets of bench press, bicep curls, tricep kick backs, and dips.

Today was my rest day but made it a point to start getting some light cardio. Bicycled for 5 1/2 miles till my bike pedal broke like it was made in mexico, then swam for a few hours. Tomrrow is a complete rest day as my whole body still feels sore ...which is good. I'll definitly be able to asertain how well the stuff starts kicking in when it comes to recovery. That is WHEN it start's kicking in. Libido came back rather quickly. I'm able to get rock hard again so w00t w00t! heh....had a lil weird momment there but even if it did hit later in the cycle its whatever. Go's with the game.

Speaking of the cycle, I only plan on doing SD for a total of 3 weeks till I switch into katanadrol and whip some fat off ......while maintaining muscle. Nay I say....perhaps even getting slightly more in the process? Well at least more vascular. We'll see.

It's day 10 so I'm going to go ahead and bump this bitch up to 30mg for the remainder of my 3wk SD run. I'm absoultely firm on this. I need some damn mass before I start hitting a crazy calorie deficit like 1,300 calories a day. Why take the risk to end up getting something minimul I could of got off a less harsher compound. Also, going to buy some "Lean Extrme" now that I got some cash to spend. Saving it for PCT. Still have to research more to find a valid source of research rat torem. I got plenty of time and if it gets to If'y, or if I can't afford to have it lab tested for verification, I will go ahead and stick with the nolva/tamox I have on hand.


Also to note, I have not usted any taurine what so ever and have had no problem with back pumps. Got a GNC down the block if need be but for now, I'd rather devote the money to other things. Going to need a second bottle of katanadrol as well for how I'm running it after SD.


Till next time......



Nip Slip?

[ilovechoclate]

DAY 11: **UPDATE** **UPDATE** **UPDATE**



Well I got some not so good news again. Ta hell right? Seems like all I'm getting is nothing but bad news to report. TISK TISK. Many of you know my anxiousness of results
as you've seen my swing of emotions from wanting to up the dose, then changing my mind and keeping it at 20, then back to wanting to up it. WELL....I noticed my eyes are getting 'slightly' yellow. That means I'm going to have to cut this supderdrol run to a DEAD HAULT. I want to use katanadrol to get extremely shreaded, and even though it is not liver toxic, it does have an effect on your lipid levels. I plan on dosing it pretty high. With that in mind and the fact my SERM will stress the liver, I really want to avoid jaundice. I was really looking forward to getting huge, but my health is more important. I will make sure I positively drink at LEAST 2 gallons of water a day, continue taking my liver suport and other support supplements, and start katanadrol tomorrow. For those that are curiouse, I took only 1 cap (10mg) of SD today but that will be my offical last cap of SD. Sucks balls. Guess my liver isn't MACHO MAN.


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10 DAY SUPERDROL 20MG ED PROGRESS REPORT

I can definitly say I do seem slimmer most defintly. Not significantly but even my gal noticed and she doesn't see me 'every day.' In this regard it did have some positive effect, but the effect it has can easily be obtainable with a less harsher much safer compound....or natural for that matter. I did have one day where I had one ice cream and a glass of choclate milk but still seem slimmer. My libido crashed the first week but came back in the second week. Balls still kept at the same size, no mood swings, no bloat, no back pumps, even without using taurine, no acne and so forth. Nothing negative other then the fact of acute sighns of jaundice to come. If your a party-er like myself back in the day, even if you cleaned up your act for a couple of years like myself..... I WOULD NOT RECCOMEND SUPERDROL.

Other things to note for those that just skipped to this post, I took my supports at LEAST 4 hours after my SD, I stuck to 2,000 - 2,250 calories a day, drank nothing but water and ate clean with the exception of the one day explained above. Also had a greasy burger I forgot to mention. Made sure I had less to eat on that day as the trans fat etc. is not good. Day 3 I started to take 2 cranberry 450mg extract that I bought from walgreens.

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Well, I already took one 10mg dose of SD early this morning so I will not take anything else today. Just drink plenty of water and enjoy a couple of dirty meals so to speak before I switch to Katandrol tomrrow and go at a crazy calorie deficit. Either 1,300 or 1,500. I will continue to take my support supps, even my liver support, even if katanadrol is not really too much stressful on the liver. Want to keep the jaundice at bay. Urine is still clear, poo is still brown, skin is not yellow.....so I seem to be catching it just in time. It's still up in the air, but due to the jaundice pre-cursor scare, I will start week 1 of Katanadrol at 350mg before bumping it up to 500mg.


Wish me luck guys.....



O -ya...also I'll try and get some before and day 10 progress pics up but don't know how today will go. If I endulge I may bloat and it won't be a good assessment of the day 10 progress. Maybe after the next days duce dropping lol

EDIT: Forgot to mention another important thing. I'm going to get blood work done now to see whatsup. If it comes back not so great I'll know I'll have to stop the katanadrol immediately as well .....but hopefully not. I'll post the results when I get the results back. HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE!

[ilovechoclate]

10 day superdrol 20mg ed progress report


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The day 11 pics have me wearing tighter shorts rather then boxers so my stomach pudge is pushed a lil. Just take that into account. Either way....gonna cut these love handles off with Katandrol.

[ilovechoclate]

Using a sticky at AM to get a cheaper hormone panel. However, I won't use this till PCT. Just checking how bad SD messed with my liver. In that case it mentions in the sticky, "lipid profile" for 47.99 but thare are two I see for the same price, as well as several other tests for your liver.

....if anyone can help me confirm what specific test will help test how bad it messed up my liver, please chime in. I'm on privatemdlabs website to pay for the
bloodwork and have it done at my local lab corp. The two that I see the sticky may be refering too are

Lipid Panel and Lipid panel With LDL:HDL Ratio

Then they also have two other tests that look like they may be it. They are

Liver Function Profile and Liver-Kidney Microsomal (LKM) Antibodies


I'm pretty sure its Lipid panel With LDL:HDL Ratio?
Appreciate any help you can give. Just don't want to waste my money. I have quite a bit of views on my log but very little posts. This would be the time to feel free and post. Don't worry....you won't have to cuddle me every day of my log. Your help is appreciated.


Gonna call labcorp and ask but considering you'll on this forum know what I'm dealing with, there may be a better test regarding my situation.


Thanks.

[Thor249]

I recently had some bloodwork done and the ones relating to the liver were

AST (SGOT)
ALT ( SGPT)

Go google those tests and it will tell you how they monitor liver activity.

I would honestly do a couple kidney tests also because usually the liver and kidneys affect each other.

For the kidneys
BUN
Creatinine
BUN/Creatinine ratio

[Thor249]

I don't think you need to worry about your lipids as much because off cycle with proper diet they tend to stabilize.

[ilovechoclate]

Well here's the game plan going into katanadrol......


DAY 2 KATANADROL @ 500MG


I will take 500mg katanadrol each day spread out through out the day. Each dose will include fish oil as bro-science says fat will help this particular compound absorb better.

My dosing schedule will look similar to
7:00 2 cap
10:00 2 cap
1:00 2 cap
4:00 2 cap
workout
7:00 1 cap
11:00 1 cap

I will also be taking my support supplements. Cycle assist at rec. dose till I'm out. I will also continue my live.52 at 3 a day till they are out and may even throw an extra one in here and there. These will be taken with food as I've been doing since I started my assist products.After week 1 of katanadrol I will start taking my Animal Pak once a day till I'm out.

NUTRITION:
My calorie goal each day will be set for 1,500 and this includes the fish oil tabs I take with my katanadrol doses. May bump the calories down to 1,300 after I see what 1,500 yields for me. 1,500 should be good though.
I will also not be consuming any carbs other then in green leafy vegetables and the occasional milk I may use for my chocolate protein powder. Depending on how things go I may incorporate some carbs if lethargy begins to be an issue.

TRAINING:
Still sticking to a 4 day split, only after every workout I will do 20 minutes of light cardio (brisk walking). On off days I will do an hour of cardio. I usually like giving myself at least ONE day out of the week where it is a complete rest day so I'll do so. On this OFF day I will try and be as active as possible.

REPORT:
Yesterday was Shoulders. It's been more then 48 hours since my chest/tricep day and my triceps are still real swore dammit. Anyway......I've had this pain in my chest. Not a gyno scare. No where near my nipple. It actually feels like its my bone on my inner chest but more so on my left pec then the right.
Below is a pic and I painted in red the exact location of the pain. My upper chest hurts too as I do incline bench press on chest day, but it hurts no where near as much as this pain I'm talking about. I think I slept wrong last night because I woke up with it hurting more.
Also my lower abdominal hurts. I noticed it more after my bike ride on rest day so I think it's from that. Haven't been in the gym in a while so I think now that I'm back in it, my body is still getting used to the stress. Between the chest pain and the lower abdominal pain, I won't be doing ANY sit-ups.....THAT'S FOR SURE. Not that I was anyway.....

[ilovechoclate]

1 week progress report of Katanadrol 500mg ED




Definitely not good news. So first, I get acute jaundice from Superdrol. Stopped it immediately. (Still have yellow eyes. They have not gotten darker yellow but haven't gotten lighter yellow either.) Now I'm barley one week into Katanadrol and there is a growth in my left chest. There are several of them, some more prominent then others, and they are all horizontal and 2-3 inches long. It is likely fat, although I will say this scare definitely had me re-think using prohormones. I stopped Katanadrol immediately and started taking my OTC post cycle as well as dosing formestanzol at 7 pumps twice daily. Didn't want to use my Nolvadex due to my liver still recovering from Supder Drol. Why get gyno AND jaundice.

Got blood work done today. Because it is a hormonal panel it can take 2-3 days to get my results even though they usually get them within 24 hours. This will be the only sure way to know if I have gyno. If my estrogen is high then I know it is gyno rather then just me tripping out on my fatty tissue. Either the case, having ****ing titties ain't cool man, so I'm going natural from here on out. It didn't bother me before my cycle thinking about gyno, but you truly don't know how you think of it till a gyno scare hits you and its too late. You start tripping and being paranoid. Even if it is fat tissue, the fact one of them is more swolen then the rest lead me to also be paranoid and think it is a glander tissue swelling. A definit pre-cursor of bitch tits to come.

10 days of 20mg Superdrol every day didn't do NOTHING positive. Granted it may have still been building up in my body to do so, the fact it started toxify'n my liver just ten days in lets me know it ain't worth it. 7 days into Katanadrol at 500mg didn't do anything positive either. No muscle gain, no vascularity, no increased fat loss. Just a gyno scare. The only thing pro hormones have given me are negative side effects and a gyno scare/potential gyno. Only my blood work will tell. I'll post it up when I get the results.


I lost 5-7 pounds in this week but it is NOT due to Katanadrol. I set my calorie goal for 1,500 but due to lack of appetite (which I rarely have) I have been consuming around 700-800 calories a day. So this explains the great deal of fat loss.


I'm going natural from here on out and if anything will only use ephedrine to aid in fat loss and MAYBE formestanzol. ....maybe.


I got 72 caps of Super Drol left over. Each cap is 10mg. Primabol is the brand name of this super-drol clone. I also have 2 weeks worth of Katanadrol and an extra 2-3 caps on top of that. Each cap is 25mg. If anyone wants em they're both yours for 40 bucks. The rest of my stuff isn't a complete waste of money as It is necessary for pct.

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[ilovechoclate]

EDIT: Also, my balls haven't shrunk in the slightest. So why the hell would I have a spike in estrogen to cause gyno when I don't even have a spike in test levels enough to shut me down in the slightest? But then if you look at the above pic and my last pic, my left pec does look more swollen/bigger.

[ilovechoclate]

my results: one thing i didn't do during my research was how to read the blood work which i'm going to be googl'n now. Figured i'd be on cycle still and would have time to research it. Anyone that can help please do so. Thanks. This is a female hormone panel done so i can save money on the blood work. Fyi.

[songdog]

Bro I aint trying to be rude.But looking at your pic looks like the closest you got to a gym was driving by it.Seriously why would you do this if you dont train?

[ilovechoclate]

Bro I aint trying to be rude.But looking at your pic looks like the closest you got to a gym was driving by it.Seriously why would you do this if you dont train?

No offense taken. I used to hit the gym allot and was in great shape.....long story short I stopped going to the gym and my diet fell to shit for a long period of time. I then got to be the out of shape chunky bastard you see in the pics. Looking back at how I used to look I got desperate and turned to pro-hormones for a short cut. This was my first and last cycle....just going back to plain ol fashion hard work.


If you have anything to contribue please do. I know I'm shut down from my blood work but I don't know how to read it to see if the 'gyno scare' I have holds any water or is just a scare. Either the case I started pct asap and going to get blood work done in 2 weeks to see how it's going and again in 4 weeks to see if I've recovered.

[songdog]

Run your pct nova clomid but if you have a problem pm Bonaparte or Gixx they are real good.

[LolWuter]

Prohormones are garbage and you are right for stopping Superdrol, but you do know that your liver values are completely fine, right? Everything is perfect except Tesotsterone and LH which seems to be suppressed.

[auswest]

Looks like you need a good diet and a consistent gym routine, doesn't look like you have been back in the gum long, good diet solid training, good luck

[ilovechoclate]

Thank you guys for your input and help. I appreciate it. And yes...I'm doing Nolvadex starting tomorrow morning. Didn't notice it had my liver values on that blood work I did....was to worried about my hormones and my gyno scare. That's cool.....don't know what the yellow in my eyes is about but anyway....soon as I'm out of this wood work I'll rest easy and be DONE with it.


Started HCGenerate 5 caps a day. My bottle of POST CYCLE 2 which is OTC and includes a test booster, estro blocker, and an AI. Since its OTC I know it won't be strong which is why I'm running it anyway.

Going to start using my formastanzol at 7 pumps twice daily after week 2 of my pct.

THE MAIN THING is I'm starting my Nolva at almost 20mg a day for the first week. (My dropper isn't as detailed) ....after the first week I'll bring it to 15mg'ish the second week. 10mg the third week, and 5 mg the forth week.

The nolva I'm gonna play by ear depending on how things go. Gonna do blood work again in two weeks and again after the fourth week to see if I've recovered.

Only been back in the gym since the start of my cycle so ...so far that makes 19 days total. I just missed being ripped and muscular. I'll get back there with hard work. Thanks again for you'lls help guys.

[ilovechoclate]

So I got blood work done after two weeks and two days of pct. Tell me anything I'm missing please. Its the reason I'm posting to get another opinion.


Looks to me like my estrogen and test are both restored....not really on the high end so I may wait a little longer before introducing the A.I. formestanzol

Also OTHER values are now abnormal that weren't before....I'm assuming this is from the Nolvadex and will go back to normal after discontinued use.

Whats your take?