First time cycle question

**antrio1** · 03-30-2012, 01:01 AM

Have posted before and got allot of helpful info but the guy I got my cycle from keeps pushing me to take the Deca and test e together for my first stack. I learned that it's best to take test on its own first cycle but my friend keeps telling no not to be a *****, is it bad to take both first cycle?

**DamageDealer** · 03-30-2012, 02:35 AM

just go with test e only, no need to use two compounds for your first cycle, since if you get some nasty sides, you won't know which compound is causing them. besides, deca is a bit more complicated steroid , imo, and you'll have to keep in mind it raises your prolactin levels. you will grow a lot with test only. btw, do you have an AI on hand? do you have PCT?

**stpete** · 03-30-2012, 04:14 AM

You'll like the results from test only. And if down the road you decide to give it a try then fine. But for now test is all you should use.

**songdog** · 03-30-2012, 04:18 AM

Hey you aint no 16 yr old HS student.Just tell him to shut the fvk up and you got it handled.You know better right? Test only now get her done

**JR G lady** · 03-30-2012, 05:17 AM

I definitely agree with what everyone is saying here. You get some amazing results with test only.

When you feel down the line that you what to lift heavier or your joints aren't as strong to lift heavier then you may think of adding deca to your cycle.

**antrio1** · 03-30-2012, 09:10 AM

Thanks everyone and yeah I'm just running the test. I'm using letro during and Nolva 2 weeks after my last injection. One more question, if I decided to do it again running test again alone is it pointless?

**gearbox** · 03-30-2012, 09:16 AM

No not at all. Two test only cycles is a good idea.

**DamageDealer** · 03-30-2012, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by antrio1

Thanks everyone and yeah I'm just running the test. I'm using letro during and Nolva 2 weeks after my last injection. One more question, if I decided to do it again running test again alone is it pointless?

it would be better if you used arimidex or aromasin , but letro is fine too i guess. also, you need to add clomid to that nolva. dosage of clomid should be 100/50/50/50 or 50/50/50/50, your choice.

**dumbtoad** · 03-30-2012, 09:33 AM

Test only works great and running more then one cycle of it is totally fine.

**antrio1** · 03-30-2012, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by DamageDealer

it would be better if you used arimidex or aromasin, but letro is fine too i guess. also, you need to add clomid to that nolva. dosage of clomid should be 100/50/50/50 or 50/50/50/50, your choice.

Ok so add clomid, I read on here that you don't want to completely shut your estrogen down so I didn't know if I should run just nolva or add something.

**antrio1** · 03-30-2012, 10:16 AM

Is running test e only a safe way of doing cycles or is it just about knowing your stuff as far as what to cycle with and pct

**adamjames** · 03-30-2012, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by antrio1

Ok so add clomid, I read on here that you don't want to completely shut your estrogen down so I didn't know if I should run just nolva or add something.

your right you dont want to totally shut down estrogen, you will end up losing energy and becoming lethargic etc which is the last thing you want when your smashing the granny out of the gym, i started my 1st cycle today and im not running an AI to begin with, i want to wait a few weeks and see how my estrogen levels are, i may not run it at all throughout if my estrogen levels dont rise significantly. Thats me anyway most will recommend you run it throughout to be on the safe side

**DamageDealer** · 03-30-2012, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by antrio1

Ok so add clomid, I read on here that you don't want to completely shut your estrogen down so I didn't know if I should run just nolva or add something.

AI for on cycle usage, while nolva and clomid are for PCT, i.e. post cycle usage. of course you don't want to shut your estro completely, therefore if you're using letro, be careful with the dosages, as letro is a VERY powerful AI, so you should stick to minimum doses

**antrio1** · 03-30-2012, 10:52 AM

Ok cool, dang I'm pumped but nervous at same time, idk why I guess just paranoid my kidneys will fail or liver ha ha but I think I'm just being paranoid

**DamageDealer** · 03-30-2012, 11:27 AM

injectable steroids have no effect on liver, and as far as i know, minimum effect on kidneys, so you're fine

**jpbbpro** · 03-30-2012, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by DamageDealer

injectable steroids have no effect on liver, and as far as i know, minimum effect on kidneys, so you're fine

Exactly. Injectables skip the first pass liver metabolism

**antrio1** · 03-30-2012, 12:35 PM

Ok cool, man I seriously appreciate y'alls help and proud to be apart of this program.

**jpbbpro** · 03-30-2012, 01:15 PM

No problem, that's what the board is for!

**antrio1** · 03-30-2012, 05:19 PM

One more thing I do have a little gyno from prohormones so will the letro help avoid further gyno

**chrsmystr2012** · 03-30-2012, 05:30 PM

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**ghettoboyd** · 03-30-2012, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by chrsmystr2012

Hey I'm new here. I just got a bottle of dbol yesterday after waiting 4 weeks for my package. I was wondering what's the dosage for my first cycle and what are faster shipping sites in the u.s for my " stuff " haha do you guys use the site connected to this site or do does everyone else get there product near by? Thx message me plz

epic first post man you just shat on the rules...might want to read them....