Why does EQ get such a bad rap on this board?

[Brohim]

That being said, as long as we're speculating, I would speculate that the people who claim they got the EXACT SAME results running Test + EQ vs test only probably either have bunk EQ or are simply mistaken. EQ does have an effect. At the very least it will raise your RBC. You might not be able to see this but it is still a result. If you are slamming 600mg+/wk of EQ and literally NOTHING happens, well I'm gonna speculate that oil you're injecting isn't EQ.

Bro your 23 and never done a cycle. So you basiclaly don't have ANY ACTUAL EXPERIENCE WITH EQ. How in the hell can you tell that you have higher RBC? LOL Test raises RBC you don't need EQ. It also gives some people anxiety.

Bottom line is when your old enough try it out for yourself.

[Philly82]

My joints also feel greatly improved on EQ...but must be stacked with test and something else for any significant gains in size.

[swm1972]

I've run a very well known and respected Ugl EQ at one gram a week and saw nothing. I'd post the lab name if I could but.... you know.

This was back during the SSB days when quality cheap gear was available in an open marketplace with feedback reports that rivaled freaking eBay. I would bet the bank that gear was legit. Never bothered running it after that. Felt I wasted 20 weeks of my life.

[swm1972]

Playing devils advocate for a second. Why was EQ created? It was to serve some purpose with regards to the hormonal level of a mammal, a positive one at that I'm sure. Can anyone chime in on this?

Its a vet steroid for race horses. They are bred for endurance not size or strength.

[bigswoll]

Everyones body is different personally i fuking love Eq . I keep most of my gains I've never had to use an ai while using it cause it doesn't aromatise and it makes me horny and vascular as Fack . That's my experience. Plus a side effect of Eq is a larger dik !! How can u go wrong now I'm pushing a solid 2 inchs :0

[JDBeretta]

Everyones body is different personally i fuking love Eq . I keep most of my gains I've never had to use an ai while using it cause it doesn't aromatise and it makes me horny and vascular as Fack . That's my experience. Plus a side effect of Eq is a larger dik !! How can u go wrong now I'm pushing a solid 2 inchs :0

Lol, you mean to say that I'll be putting gerbils to shame at the end of the Eq cycle I'm on right now?!?!? SaaaaaWwwweeeeetttt!!! :P

[Honkey_Kong]

No. That's gixxerboy..............

That's what happens when you don't run an AI.

[Philly82]

Everyones body is different personally i fuking love Eq . I keep most of my gains I've never had to use an ai while using it cause it doesn't aromatise and it makes me horny and vascular as Fack . That's my experience. Plus a side effect of Eq is a larger dik !! How can u go wrong now I'm pushing a solid 2 inchs :0

Me too...from the ground. lol

[The Bear 79]

Everyones body is different personally i fuking love Eq . I keep most of my gains I've never had to use an ai while using it cause it doesn't aromatise and it makes me horny and vascular as Fack . That's my experience. Plus a side effect of Eq is a larger dik !! How can u go wrong now I'm pushing a solid 2 inchs :0

One thing you will be hard pressed to find is a factual / proven medial study about the human consumption of Eq., because it was never intended for human consumption, but one thing there is NO shortage of, are threads on EVERY steroid forum, including this one, of guys saying "Eq. killed my libido". Theses claims are based on the same foundation as "Eq. is useless for building muscle", basically the proof lays in the proven hands on experience since there are no studies to reference. Test. + Eq. cycle = same gains as Test. only cycle, therefore concluding Eq. is worthless as a muscle builder, Test. only cycle = no libido problems, Test. + Eq. cycle = low or no libido, therefore concluding Eq. does not increase libido. HUNDREDS of people cant just coincidentally have the same stories about the same drug, which lands me back on, "its not the Eq. you're feeling, its the Test." You can desperately cling to whatever you want to believe, but like I said, the proof lays in the proven hands on experience of hundred or even thousands of users that all have the same story / conclusion, 5% or maybe even 10 - 15% could be passed off as coincidence, but never 85 - 90%. Eq. does nothing but dangerously raise your RBC.

[JDBeretta]

It's definitely not some amazing compound, but I notice a bit of a drier look from it... And my joints feel great. And my appetite is great.

I'm not familiar with every type of steroid out there, but all in all I'd say Eq is 'decent'.

And yes, I've ran test alone before.

[coldfear]

I've used it at 400 a week with test prop at 350 and had much better strength, pumps and vascularity than test solo

[Misery13]

No, it is a compound structurally similar to dianabol that acts nothing like it.
It has the muscle building capabilities of roughly 1/3 an equal dose of test (at average doses), with a few different side effects (increased H&H, and anxiety).

I'm not going to say that it is useless, but there are far better alternatives out there for nearly any goal.

I agree. I use it at times to assist with vascularity and cuts. I will be trying Primobolan for the first time ever for my next cycle. Everyone is different and will have different results with the same compound and dose you take. Try it and get your own opinion so that the next time someone starts an EQ thread you can be part of the debate.

[jpalmer1122]

Bro EQ is one of my favorites! Absolutely love it.

[JayBee]

I'm no expert but I have done a cycle of test cyp & I'm on a test400/eq cycle now & can see a big difference. More strength, pumps, vasular, & constant muscle hardness, like I just walked outta the gym 24/7. It took 6 weeks to actually feel the difference, so in the beginning I bought into the eq is useless stance, but it did come around in time.

[gixxerboy1]

yes increased pumps and more vascular, from increased blood pressure and rbc which both can be dangerous. so its a side effect not an added benefit imo.

[bigswoll]

I love Eq I've ran test alone many times. When running with 3 to400 levels my gains are more solid and i never have gyno issues and i retain alot more when coming off a cycle. Plus my libido is out of control. Eq is made to be ran for a long period of time. You won't c any results at 8-10 weeks Eq Shud be ran at least 12-16 weeks. My vascularity wud never be anywhere close to what is now if it wasn't for Eq. I know many many athletes that run Eq and say they have better endurance and again maintains alot more when coming off cycle. Also no water retention due to non aromatise. That's my experience and many ppl I've trained experiences. Again everyones body is different so jus cause u might disagree don't bash my Opioning that shit pisses me off so bad. There's no one way of doing something everyones different

[Sgt. Hartman]

No ones gonna bash your opinion because you say you like EQ. It's just that most (not all) people take steroids to grow/increase muscle tissue and EQ does not aid much if at all with that goal.

If some people feel like EQ is worth running for a little appetite increase, more vascularity, or increased stamina then so be it, but that's not what I'm looking for from AAS.

[Bonaparte]

I love Eq I've ran test alone many times. When running with 3 to400 levels my gains are more solid and i never have gyno issues and i retain alot more when coming off a cycle. Plus my libido is out of control. Eq is made to be ran for a long period of time. You won't c any results at 8-10 weeks Eq Shud be ran at least 12-16 weeks. My vascularity wud never be anywhere close to what is now if it wasn't for Eq. I know many many athletes that run Eq and say they have better endurance and again maintains alot more when coming off cycle. Also no water retention due to non aromatise. That's my experience and many ppl I've trained experiences. Again everyones body is different so jus cause u might disagree don't bash my Opioning that shit pisses me off so bad. There's no one way of doing something everyones different

It does aromatise at roughly half the rate of testosterone .

[JDBeretta]

I like Eq but I disagree with it being of any benefit to endurance. Holy sh*t. I do a set or 2 and I have to catch my breath on this cycle. Increased RBC = less oxygen in your blood to get to your muscles, I assume. Or whatever it is, I am out of breath all the time on this cycle.

And no, I don't need to check my diet or sodium or water retention.

[Bonaparte]

I like Eq but I disagree with it being of any benefit to endurance. Holy sh*t. I do a set or 2 and I have to catch my breath on this cycle. Increased RBC = less oxygen in your blood to get to your muscles, I assume. Or whatever it is, I am out of breath all the time on this cycle.

And no, I don't need to check my diet or sodium or water retention.

Red blood cells carry oxygen.
But your endurance can actually suffer once your hematocrit gets dangerously high, so you should get blood work done to make sure this isn't the case.

[Brohim]

I like Eq but I disagree with it being of any benefit to endurance. Holy sh*t. I do a set or 2 and I have to catch my breath on this cycle. Increased RBC = less oxygen in your blood to get to your muscles, I assume. Or whatever it is, I am out of breath all the time on this cycle.

And no, I don't need to check my diet or sodium or water retention.

no higher RBC = more oxygen in your blood. That is why racer's dope EPO. But it can get to high so I would advise for you to get it checked as well.

[JDBeretta]

Red blood cells carry oxygen.
But your endurance can actually suffer once your hematocrit gets dangerously high, so you should get blood work done to make sure this isn't the case.

Lol, thanks for the info. I never looked into that... Been cramming so much info on HPTA/Endocrine system and estrogen/progesterone aromatization, etc that I haven't learned about it yet.

I'm getting there though

[decaDump]

Ive ran EQ only cycle when I was 22 and gained a nice 5 lbs of solid muscle. I ran EQ with Sust 250 last year and gained 5 lbs of quality muscle.

This is how I did it...
EQ every 3 days 100 mg
Sust 250 every 10 days.

I like it and will do EQ again but not in the near future. I want to try tbol next. ;-)

[Brohim]

bro tell me you don't have a pic of you taking a bubble bath as your Avatar. Some guys..

[gixxerboy1]

bro tell me you don't have a pic of you taking a bubble bath as your Avatar. Some guys..

And thats after 2 eq cycles. I think that speaks for itself

[The Bear 79]

And thats after 2 eq cycles. I think that speaks for itself

Like I've said time & time again, & so many have proven through "results" or lack there of...................EQ DOES NOT BUILD MUSCLE.

[cro]

those doses are low.i ran eq with test and liked it.(i think)dont know what did what , but got very vascular. i love t-bol , even love the h-drol.

Ive ran EQ only cycle when I was 22 and gained a nice 5 lbs of solid muscle. I ran EQ with Sust 250 last year and gained 5 lbs of quality muscle.

This is how I did it...
EQ every 3 days 100 mg
Sust 250 every 10 days.

I like it and will do EQ again but not in the near future. I want to try tbol next. ;-)

[Misery13]

Ive ran EQ only cycle when I was 22 and gained a nice 5 lbs of solid muscle. I ran EQ with Sust 250 last year and gained 5 lbs of quality muscle.

This is how I did it...
EQ every 3 days 100 mg
Sust 250 every 10 days.

I like it and will do EQ again but not in the near future. I want to try tbol next. ;-)

Wow... And how old are you now?

Stats please?

[bigswoll]

Everyone has different results! The end