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    Quote Originally Posted by Thejudge View Post
    What happened to my thread??!
    Looks like your questions were mostly answered by post 29...and then it derailed. I am sure it can get back on track with your presence and more questions.

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    I appologise then. It seems like reckless advice to me but I'll look into it more. I guess it's harmless if you draw back but a lot don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotConvincedYet View Post
    A small amount of air is fine and wont cause damage. Extensive research in to injection technique will eventually lead you to information on the effect of injecting air in to the muscle. A small amount is fine. An air embolism will occur if you put too much air in, but it's something like 2 or 3cc worth.

    I did a full cycle this way. I knew I had used up all the gear in the needle and that it was all in my muscle when the syringe made a quick 'puff' sound.

    You don't have to do it this way, but if you don't want wastage then it's worth considering. If not, then waste all the gear you want

    Here's a thread on the topic: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...m#.T5ff5I7B1e8
    Thanks for seting me straight on this. I read the whole thread and even tried it myself; no worries. I'm still on the fence about it but there were some really good points raised about ED pinning, which is where it seems you'd get a noticeable benefit from it, especially considering the price of Tren in Aus. Using this method with enanthate or cypionate would yeild almost no benefit. Thanks again for such a helpful response, it is appreciated.

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    Not only have I read that it is a common practice, but I always get an air bubble out of my body when I aspirate ...and then put it back, plus a tiny bit more when I inject. I have done hundreds of injections this way.

    Still, don't do it if you aren't comfortable with the idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas View Post
    Not only have I read that it is a common practice, but I always get an air bubble out of my body when I aspirate ...and then put it back, plus a tiny bit more when I inject. I have done hundreds of injections this way.

    Still, don't do it if you aren't comfortable with the idea.
    Do you not know what a vacuum is? I hope you're being sarcastic. It is impossible to draw an air bubble out of your muscle, there is no way. When you draw back, it creates a vacuum in the syringe, and while it may look like air, I assure you there is no air in the syringe. SMH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nooby View Post
    Do you not know what a vacuum is? I hope you're being sarcastic. It is impossible to draw an air bubble out of your muscle, there is no way. When you draw back, it creates a vacuum in the syringe, and while it may look like air, I assure you there is no air in the syringe. SMH.
    Honestly, I never thought about it (although I red faced for having not done so). I never even wondered about the mechanics. Thanks for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGHGM
    I appologise then. It seems like reckless advice to me but I'll look into it more. I guess it's harmless if you draw back but a lot don't.
    I always leave an air bubble, gear is expensive....no wasting!!

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    A little air fine...Just make sure you pull the plunger back prior to injecting. In all my years I've only hit a vein 2x and pulled blood into the syringe. I just moved over a cm and was good to go. I would hate to have hit 3cc's into a vein like that. :0

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas View Post
    Honestly, I never thought about it (although I red faced for having not done so). I never even wondered about the mechanics. Thanks for that.
    Hahaha....X2

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockRover View Post
    A little air fine...Just make sure you pull the plunger back prior to injecting. In all my years I've only hit a vein 2x and pulled blood into the syringe. I just moved over a cm and was good to go. I would hate to have hit 3cc's into a vein like that. :0
    I put some prop into a vein once. Got lazy and didn't draw back. It was quite a scary and unpleasant experience for a short time then all good. Got the cold sweats, bit of kidney pain and felt really uneasy. It came on really fast and just when I thought "shit, this is about to get real bad" it started to subside. Drank a heap of water and was at work on time like nothing had happened. Needless to say I always draw back now.

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