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    khz
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    Severly high estrogen - need help to get this sorted please

    Hello all Ive been cruising on 250mg a week test enanthate for 8 weeks now (after a 10 week blast of test e and tren ) and I got bloods done these are my results

    Total testosterone - 26.2 (8-32 range)
    Prolactin - 588 (90-500 range)
    Estradiol - 477 (50-170 range)

    My blood pressure, cholestrol and everything else health related is perfectly fine which was a surprise considering high e2 increases blood pressure and cholestrol.

    I'm 22, 6'3 tall and 132kg (290lb) bodyweight with 18% bodyfat so yeh I am a big boy.

    My estrogen is sky high i couldnt believe it, I do admit I was lazy with taking my Aromasin while on cycle and on cruisng because I got little bloat and absolutely no gyno symptoms at all... hard to believe but yeh no symptoms. BUT i did have sexual dysfunction from time to time (not all the time but here and there) and now I realize its mostly from my super high estrogen.

    With estrogen this high, does this mean that all my androgens are being converted to estrogen? I have prami on me which I am using atm to drop my prolactin. I have letro and aromasin on me ready to go what should be my protocol to bring my estrogen down to a normal level ASAP so I can start cycling again and making gains? I want to know dosages and time periods please if you could.

    Thanks for your help.

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    Are you planning to compete??
    Just wondering why you would cruise at such a young age going to struggle to recover.

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    agreed with bob87. but thats not the problem here. lets help this kid out and tHEN argue about why hes in this position.. yea?

    khz i would recommend taking a something like a SERM , ? maybe a high dosage of nolva is a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by $$GhettoReps$$
    agreed with bob87. but thats not the problem here. lets help this kid out and tHEN argue about why hes in this position.. yea?

    khz i would recommend taking a something like a SERM , ? maybe a high dosage of nolva is a good idea.
    May want to do some research before you try handing out retarded advice. A serm will do nothing for reducing estrogen in the blood, only block the receptor.

    Op start off with an ai such as arimidex or aromasin , not sure about dosage however a quick search will help you there.
    .25 eod of arimidex is usually advised as a good starting point to control estrogen.
    However in your case where your estrogen is high maybe see how you go with that dose Ed and take it from there. But I'm sure there will be plenty of info on dosing using the search tool. Or a vet may chime in and help you out. I only commented because of that fool above me handing out shit advice, and only 5 mins after starting a thread asking which is the better prohormones " pro bodybuilders advice only" lollol
    Last edited by auswest; 04-29-2012 at 02:52 AM.

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    Agreed .25 dex eod is the way to roll..Nolva is not good for you it's a breast cancer drug..I agree dont be handing out advice that has no basis..If your fighting gyno nolva is to me only used if my nips are starting to feel itchy and I feel gyno is coming on..It can have some use in pct as well..U could use femera or other AI's but dex doesnt seem to be as rough with sides as others..

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    Quote Originally Posted by auswest View Post
    May want to do some research before you try handing out retarded advice. A serm will do nothing for reducing estrogen in the blood, only block the receptor.

    Op start off with an ai such as arimidex or aromasin , not sure about dosage however a quick search will help you there.
    .25 eod of arimidex is usually advised as a good starting point to control estrogen.
    However in your case where your estrogen is high maybe see how you go with that dose Ed and take it from there. But I'm sure there will be plenty of info on dosing using the search tool. Or a vet may chime in and help you out. I only commented because of that fool above me handing out shit advice, and only 5 mins after starting a thread asking which is the better prohormones " pro bodybuilders advice only" lollol
    Agree with this completely.......

    Back to my original question but are you Planning to compete??
    are you aware of the risks of not only cycling young but cruising ??
    your body probably wont recover if you cruise for too long

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    I totally agree with the age thing bro but Ive seen guys go for 5 years straight and have kids..I DONT recommend that and it completlety depends on the person the dose the AS used..Really there is no way to tell..Thats why it's smarter to cycle esp so young brother..

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    You seem smart khz and staying on top of your bloodwork is great and none of us are trying to bust your balls, but you can do some severe permanant damage..Iam 32 and I know guys who are huge but already got prostate issuse's kidney and liver issuse..Iam having kidney issuses from drinking to much whey over the years..You really gotta tiptoe with all these chems..PPL make all this seem alot safer than it can be..I know when I was your age I cared less..I just wanted to fight and get laid I look back at those days and laugh at myself..Listen to the vets, stay healthy

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    ^^as above, jump on adex .25mg ED or EOD. Stop pinning, start a 6 week Nolva/Clomid PCT 10 days from now. You still have a chance.

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    Agree with auswest. Adex and add some caber if you have it at .25 x 2 per week. Selegiline will help with prolactin also....

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    Quote Originally Posted by KINGKONG View Post
    I totally agree with the age thing bro but Ive seen guys go for 5 years straight and have kids..I DONT recommend that and it completlety depends on the person the dose the AS used..Really there is no way to tell..Thats why it's smarter to cycle esp so young brother..
    being able to have kids has very little to do with if you recover or not or even if you are shut down.
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Really I figured shut down, no natural sperm is being made..Thats good though made my day that means theres still a chance for me..

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