High blood pressure?

[empireants901]

I got my blood pressure taken by a machine at a Kroger and it was a constant 147/74. I eat clean and I'm on my 30th day of prop. I also take massive amounts of caffeine so that may contribute. Should I continue the cycle? Or should I go see a dr? Or both

[auswest]

I got my blood pressure taken by a machine at a Kroger and it was a constant 147/74. I eat clean and I'm on my 30th day of prop. I also take massive amounts of caffeine so that may contribute. Should I continue the cycle? Or should I go see a dr? Or both

Lay off the caffeine, that will deffernatly not be helping you, add a baby aspirin to your diet daily and maybe some hawthrorn berry, and check it again in a few days

[Times Roman]

there is no harm in taking a BP pill while on cycle. this will help control your issue

[kelkel]

Look at low dose Doxazosin.

[str2234]

keep an eye on that a buddy of mine has high blood pressure and he has collapsed at the gym a couple of times because of it

btw his blood pressure figures were almost identical to yours...

[bob87]

Had mine checked the other day it was 141/80 I was thinking the baby aspirin trick too.

[AD]

i still can't find anywhere or anyone that can explain how aspirin lowers blood pressure. does anyone know?

[str2234]

short answer is that aspirin thins the blood

taking a baby chewable aspirin every night before bed should have the desired effect

[AD]

it 'thins' the blood by preventing the platelets from clotting, but it does not change the viscosity of the blood at all.

[empireants901]

Have you guys heard of using apple cider vinegar ?

[thephil]

Garlic is supposto help to. I recently started takin hawthorn berry and garlic pills. Give it a week n ill check again to see if its working *fingers crossed*

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[Capebuffalo]

Have you guys heard of using apple cider vinegar ?

^this. 1 oz 2x a day

[nooby]

First of all. You need to check your BP multiple times, and while at rest. Secondly baby aspirin does absolutely nothing for BP. Thirdly the bottom number is more important, anything under 80 is good.

[n00bs]

i still can't find anywhere or anyone that can explain how aspirin lowers blood pressure. does anyone know?

Its has to do with Prostanoids and cycloxygenase pathways.

Asprin is a cycloxygenase inhibitor however it effects COX1 pathway more then 2 other NSAIDs effect 2 more that effects sodium homeostasis, basically retention of sodium thats why you can cop blood pressure from them if you are prone, have a high salt diet and are border line hypertensive.

Inhibition of COX1 is associated with sodium loss and not retention...

I dont understand it fully enough to be able to explain it in lay terms though as i never spent much time on it sorry.

[Zackery]

Apparently high blood pressure is "normal" while cycling. Although you will want to do something about it.

Yes aspirins does work. It's correct in saying that it thins the blood. A simple explanation is: looking at the average safe blood pressure 120/80. The first number is the initial pump and the effort it takes to pump. The thicker the blood is the more effort it takes. The second number is the pressure on the veins. So thick blood means more effort and more pressure. So your heart is working twice as hard just to keep a stable supply of blood to the brain.

[jasc]

i still can't find anywhere or anyone that can explain how aspirin lowers blood pressure. does anyone know?

Good question, I was wondering the same thing. Also, everyone says to take baby asprin, but noone ever says anything about regular asprin, why is this?

[Zackery]

Good question, I was wondering the same thing. Also, everyone says to take baby asprin, but noone ever says anything about regular asprin, why is this?

Aspirin interferes with your blood's clotting action. When you bleed, your blood's clotting cells, called platelets, build up at the site of your wound. The platelets help form a plug that seals the opening in your blood vessel to stop bleeding.

But this clotting can also happen within the vessels that supply your heart with blood. If your blood vessels are already narrowed from atherosclerosis — the buildup of fatty deposits in your arteries — a fatty deposit in your vessel lining can burst. Then, a blood clot can quickly form and block the artery. This prevents blood flow to the heart and causes a heart attack.

[AD]

Apparently high blood pressure is "normal" while cycling. Although you will want to do something about it.

Yes aspirins does work. It's correct in saying that it thins the blood. A simple explanation is: looking at the average safe blood pressure 120/80. The first number is the initial pump and the effort it takes to pump. The thicker the blood is the more effort it takes. The second number is the pressure on the veins. So thick blood means more effort and more pressure. So your heart is working twice as hard just to keep a stable supply of blood to the brain.

it 'thins' the blood by preventing the platelets from clotting, but it does not change the viscosity of the blood at all.

[AD]

Aspirin interferes with your blood's clotting action. When you bleed, your blood's clotting cells, called platelets, build up at the site of your wound. The platelets help form a plug that seals the opening in your blood vessel to stop bleeding.

But this clotting can also happen within the vessels that supply your heart with blood. If your blood vessels are already narrowed from atherosclerosis — the buildup of fatty deposits in your arteries — a fatty deposit in your vessel lining can burst. Then, a blood clot can quickly form and block the artery. This prevents blood flow to the heart and causes a heart attack.

this is the mechanism whereby aspirin helps prevent heart attacks or strokes, but it doesn't explain whether or not aspirin lowers blood pressure.

[AD]

Its has to do with Prostanoids and cycloxygenase pathways.

Asprin is a cycloxygenase inhibitor however it effects COX1 pathway more then 2 other NSAIDs effect 2 more that effects sodium homeostasis, basically retention of sodium thats why you can cop blood pressure from them if you are prone, have a high salt diet and are border line hypertensive.

Inhibition of COX1 is associated with sodium loss and not retention...

I dont understand it fully enough to be able to explain it in lay terms though as i never spent much time on it sorry.

don't they affect pathways of inflammation instead of sodium homeostasis?

[auswest]

this is the mechanism whereby aspirin helps prevent heart attacks or strokes, but it doesn't explain whether or not aspirin lowers blood pressure.

There are a couple of study's I just found by searching on google that did show a drop in blood pressure but only on those who were taking them before bed. Having trouble linking, I'm using app on phone

There are alot of pros to the use of a daily baby aspirin, it's something I have added to my minimum daily supplement list.

[AD]

taking aspirin for anti-inflammation and for stroke/heart attack prevention is perfectly understandable. but taking it to lower bp is a little puzzling. it seems like a common practice here as i see it been recommended repeatedly, but i still can't explain how it might or might not work.

[n00bs]

Members of the family of prostanoids, made up of prostaglandins and thromboxanes, are generated via COX-mediated metabolism of arachidonic acid. These lipid mediators exhibit wide-ranging biological actions that include regulating both vasomotor tone and renal sodium excretion. As COX inhibition is often associated with sodium retention leading to edema and hypertension, prostanoids appear to have a role in preventing the development of high blood pressure. On the other hand, prostaglandin E2 (PGE2) and PGI2 have also been implicated as determinants of renin secretion. A new study suggests that PGI2 plays a critical role in stimulating renin release and promoting hypertension following renal artery stenosis.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15372097

[auswest]

taking aspirin for anti-inflammation and for stroke/heart attack prevention is perfectly understandable. but taking it to lower bp is a little puzzling. it seems like a common practice here as i see it been recommended repeatedly, but i still can't explain how it might or might not work.

From what I just read it sounds as if docs have not discovered how or why.... Or maybe they have but the couple of articles I just read said otherwise, and results from tests conducted a blood pressure drop was recorded on those who were using them before bed.
The avg measured drop was
Systolic blood pressure (the top number): down 6.8
Diastolic blood pressure (the bottom number): down 1.6
Google hermida's study

[AD]

ya, i saw that study too. rather confusing. aspirin appeared to lower the bp for the group that takes it at night, but raise the bp of the group that takes it in the morning. and at the bottom of the page, it says other researchers have not been able to reproduce the results.

[AD]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15372097

does this then prove that all NSAIDS and COX2 inhibitors like ibuprofen and arcoxia helps lower bp?

[n00bs]

No,

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9391772

There are so many different mechanisms and interactions. Blood pressure isnt my thing so I cant comment too indepth. Serotonin is envolved as then N.O its such a complicated system.

[AD]

No,

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9391772

There are so many different mechanisms and interactions. Blood pressure isnt my thing so I cant comment too indepth. Serotonin is envolved as then N.O its such a complicated system.

NSAIDs and increased blood pressure..

wow, i would love to see the full article and not just the abstract, to see if aspirin is in their study.

you mentioned serotonin and nitric oxide. how do they play a part in aspirin and bp?

[n00bs]

Not in asprin, in blood pressure itself.

Different serotonin receptors effect vascular resistance, and NO through vasodilation.

[empireants901]

This thread turned out pretty educational thanks guys

[thephil]

Garlic is supposto help to. I recently started takin hawthorn berry and garlic pills. Give it a week n ill check again to see if its working *fingers crossed*

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^^ checked my bp this morning 124/74 down from 135/75

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[delaros4]

i have the same problem im ready to get me some aspirin