Need some good feedback, advice, opinions, critiques for my possible next cycle.

**wisephil** · 06-07-2012, 03:40 PM

What do you bros think would the best cycle in terms of results? I know the diet is the most important, training, then gear. I don't need any trolls or counselors just some good honest people who are trying to help.
Looking for some honest feedback only, i have my diet and training on check. I just need some advice on which cycle i should run?

Week 1-6

Test prop- 100 EOD(350 weekly)
NPP- 150 EOD (525 weekly
D-bol-50 ED
Test E- 300 EW (300 weekly)
Tren E 300 2 x W(600 weekly)

Week 7-12

Test E- 300 EW (300 weekly)
Tren E-300 2 x W (600 weekly)

13-16

Test Prop- 100 EOD (350Weekly)
Tren Ace- 75 ED (525 Weekly)
Winny- 50ED (350 Weekly)

VS

1-6
Test prop- 100 EOD(350 weekly)
NPP- 150 EOD (525 weekly)
D-bol-50 ED
Test E- 300 EW (300 weekly)

7-8

Test prop- 100 EOD(325 weekly)
NPP- 150 EOD (525 weekly)
Test E- 300 EW (300 weekly)

9-12
Test E- 300 EW (250 weekly)
Tren Ace 75ed (525 weekly)

13-16
Test Prop- 100 ED (250 Weekly)
Tren Ace- 75ED (525 Weekly)
Winny- 50ED

**Capebuffalo** · 06-07-2012, 03:52 PM

Your 21. Too young. That is a mama jams cycle for the experienced. No way bro. Educational thread the young and steroids . Please read. It will answer your why not question.

**stpete** · 06-07-2012, 04:06 PM

Too young.

Here's the thread Capebuffalo referred to. There's a lot more info there as well...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.T9Elt7Cm9uA

**songdog** · 06-07-2012, 04:09 PM

I agree with all the above statements to young.

**wisephil** · 06-07-2012, 04:35 PM

Ive ran gear already and I'm still going to run it but thanks for your feedback! Wasn't looking for the you're too young feedback as stated above, but thanks anyway. Guess no one will help so i will just have to stick with what i think is best. Cheers

**papa-g** · 06-07-2012, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by wisephil

Ive ran gear already and I'm still going to run it but thanks for your feedback! Wasn't looking for the you're too young feedback as stated above, but thanks anyway. Guess no one will help so i will just have to stick with what i think is best. Cheers

Then why'd you ask. You knew what people would say.

**Capebuffalo** · 06-07-2012, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by wisephil

Ive ran gear already and I'm still going to run it but thanks for your feedback! Wasn't looking for the you're too young feedback as stated above, but thanks anyway. Guess no one will help so i will just have to stick with what i think is best. Cheers

And your screen name is wisephil? Ok big guy what othe cycles have yo don that have gotten you up to a whopping 175 lbs. You obviously don't have a clue. Please listen to everyone asking you not to do this.

**wisephil** · 06-07-2012, 04:50 PM

Im not 21 nor 175 hahaha!
Im 24 and 195 at 8% bodyfat
Not the biggest guy but not the smallest either.

**wisephil** · 06-07-2012, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by papa-g

Then why'd you ask. You knew what people would say.

I asked because i thought thats what this forum was for..to help others with cycles. But its really not haha no matter who posts even if your 24 30 they just say youre too young. Guess they want us to wait until were dead...

**Capebuffalo** · 06-07-2012, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by wisephil

Im not 21 nor 175 hahaha!
Im 24 and 195 at 8% bodyfat
Not the biggest guy but not the smallest either.

Dude I got it off your profile.

**DanB** · 06-07-2012, 04:58 PM

your profile says 21 and 175

you say here your 22 and 23 in july @ 183
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t=#post6021937

now your 24, 195 @ 8%

lmfao how stupid do you think we are

talking through your hole gets you nowhere here and will always be found out

best of luck

**wisephil** · 06-07-2012, 05:06 PM

I was 23 my birthday was monday haha it says it on that same thread too that i would be 24 when i started my next cycle but whatever man im not here to fight.

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 06-07-2012, 05:09 PM

The ol "my birthday was last week!" haha

**DanB** · 06-07-2012, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by wisephil

Im not 21 nor 175 hahaha!
Im 24 and 195 at 8% bodyfat
Not the biggest guy but not the smallest either.

so which is it

**wisephil** · 06-07-2012, 05:11 PM

Go look at the other thread hahah it says it in there my birthdays in june im a gemini haha im 24

**DanB** · 06-07-2012, 05:15 PM

so you were 21 when you joined in feb 2012 as per your profile, you were 22 couple months ago in other thread and now your 24?

**wisephil** · 06-07-2012, 05:29 PM

Im 24.......i was born june 4th 1988

**DanB** · 06-07-2012, 05:35 PM

then why does your profile say 21,

yiur quoted saying this in other thread

Im 183 and 23 lol
Actually i wont turn 23 until june 5th but still
ill be 23 in july and thats when ill be starting this cycle .

and now 24

I reckon your 18-20 judging by the fact you cant even string a simple lie together

best of luck

**papa-g** · 06-07-2012, 05:45 PM

And this place is for help and answers. I've never been turned down. But you kids keep posting $hit like " I wanna be huge now" and it gets old.

Got eat and train and research. Alot!! Then in a few years when your natty hormones level off you will have the solid base you need.

The people here are trying to help, your just to ignorant to see that.

**Capebuffalo** · 06-07-2012, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by DanB

then why does your profile say 21,

yiur quoted saying this in other thread

and now 24

I reckon your 18-20 judging by the fact you cant even string a simple lie together

best of luck

Dan. Come on. Your math skill dont have to be good to get a GED

**wisephil** · 06-07-2012, 08:11 PM

You know what? Forget you guys this is a waste of time i will run my cycle no matter what you guys say capiche?
To me its just funny how most of you dudes started at a young age yet don't want me to start at 24....
that freaking article one of you sent me says 24-25 haha its my body anyway so i will do whatever i want with it.

**DanB** · 06-07-2012, 08:19 PM

i couldnt care what age you are, if you had of just been straight out then i would of tried hekp you, same with alot of people

**wisephil** · 06-07-2012, 11:44 PM

Im 24 when i made an account i just put whatever age but i really am 24 i was 22 or 21 or whatever you guys think my age is i would just say it i have nothing to hide.
I would probably do it either way even if i was 22, but thanks anyway. take care I'm out of here no one helped me haha

**Capebuffalo** · 06-08-2012, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by wisephil

You know what? Forget you guys this is a waste of time i will run my cycle no matter what you guys say capiche?
To me its just funny how most of you dudes started at a young age yet don't want me to start at 24....
that freaking article one of you sent me says 24-25 haha its my body anyway so i will do whatever i want with it.

Bro. I didn't do my first cycle until I was in my early 30's. So do try to pull that bullsh*t

**gixxerboy1** · 06-08-2012, 08:16 AM

both cycles suck. So there you got your answer. They are over complicated
2 19 nors in the first one. good luck with that.

**wisephil** · 06-08-2012, 09:57 PM

I will growwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww i don't have problems with 19 nors like most of you so suck it hahahahahahahaahhaa~
I have ran tren ace already for 10 weeks at 700ed with sust at 500 no sides what so ever so you're wrong!

**aportinastorm** · 06-08-2012, 10:23 PM

Just out of curiosity whats your obsession with writing haha? Looks like you found a way to sneak it into every response of your lol

**gixxerboy1** · 06-09-2012, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by wisephil

I will growwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww i don't have problems with 19 nors like most of you so suck it hahahahahahahaahhaa~
I have ran tren ace already for 10 weeks at 700ed with sust at 500 no sides what so ever so you're wrong!

they why are you asking for opinions. You know how you respond and know everything so good luck with the crappy cycles