17 and starting a cycle

[Younggymking]

Hi I am 17 years old, lifting since 8th grade, 6ft and 245lbs. I am not spamming or trolling, I just want answers. I know I'm young to start but I have already made my decision to start a cycle. I just want to be as safe as possible. I would like to know the safest steroid I could take and at what dosage. I was recommended super test 300 but idk if I like the reviews. Please help I just wanna be keep it safe. Thanks.

[austinite]

At 17:

2800 calories ED. (6 dosages)
3 qts Water ED. (6 dosages)
1000 mg Placebo ED. (1 dose)
3 Miles Cardio ED. (1 dose)

Good luck.

[gonzo6183]

You really should reconsider this plan, its a really really bad idea with severe long term side effects. How would you like to be 19 and not able to f*ck?

Have a read of this...


http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...g-and-Steroids

[Younggymking]

I do all that you posted besides maybe the cardio everyday. I eat 5 times a day. My bench sky rocketed at first. I've powerlifted for my school since I was a freshman (junior now). I follow westsides workouts. I'm doing everything I can naturally. But everyone has caught up to me I use to be the best bencher but now I'm slowly dropping because all the other guys are juicing. Just let me know the safest way please!

[Coolhand5599]

You will puck yourself up forever. I did it at 18 now I am 41 I spent 20 years of my life going to doctors all over the country trying to find out what was wrong with me. At 17 you will get what you are looking for with a proper diet. Without a proper diet the gear will still not give you what you want. You don't just take Roids and get big. it will be the biggest mistake of your life

[Coolhand5599]

At 17:

2800 calories ED. (6 dosages)
3 qts Water ED. (6 dosages)
1000 mg Placebo ED. (1 dose)
3 Miles Cardio ED. (1 dose)

Good luck.

It's so much more than this, what are your macros? What does your workout look like? How much sleep do you get? What do you eat five times a day?

[austinite]

I do all that you posted besides maybe the cardio everyday. I eat 5 times a day. My bench sky rocketed at first. I've powerlifted for my school since I was a freshman (junior now). I follow westsides workouts. I'm doing everything I can naturally. But everyone has caught up to me I use to be the best bencher but now I'm slowly dropping because all the other guys are juicing. Just let me know the safest way please!

That's the thing, man. There is no safe way to use AAS at your age. I know I am wasting my time because you've already made up your mind. Let me be the example here...

Around your age I started juicing (maybe a bit older), I can no longer get an erection on my own, I produce no natural testosterone , I have post-hyper-pigmentation so no matter how bad ass my body gets, I can't take my shirt off at the beach. Not to mention between 18 and 25, I had the worst depression you could fathom, suicidal thoughts we very common. These are just a few issues I deal with.

Leave the juice alone. No offence, but at your height and weight, it seems you are over weight. AAS will do NOTHING to large layers of fat. Nothing!

I hope you reconsider. Good luck.

[austinite]

It's so much more than this, what are your macros? What does your workout look like? How much sleep do you get? What do you eat five times a day?

It was a joke to make a point.

[Younggymking]

Workout is westsides. Max effort and speed days 5 times a week. I sleep 9 hours. I eat fruits and veggies in morning eggs and some type of pork around lunch, no fast food. Protein shake everyday even off days. I'm on creatine, bcaas, glutamine, vitamins, fish oil. I'm doing everything I can.

[Younggymking]

If I take the right dosages and clomide in between cycles I think I would be fine. Atleast that's what I was told personally

[austinite]

If I take the right dosages and clomide in between cycles I think I would be fine. Atleast that's what I was told personally

Not even remotely close to being true.

[Younggymking]

Clomide helps getting your test lvls back to normal?

[thex95]

Plain amd simple if you do a cycle at your age your a complete idiot. Its time to act like a big boy and just accept your going to have to wait a few years. Its accepting facts you don't like and living with them which determines how much of a man you really are. If you go ahead with this cycle your just proving to yoursle and everyone else your just another little kid who thinks he knows best and has a lot of learning to do in life.

[Coolhand5599]

Workout is westsides. Max effort and speed days 5 times a week. I sleep 9 hours. I eat fruits and veggies in morning eggs and some type of pork around lunch, no fast food. Protein shake everyday even off days. I'm on creatine, bcaas, glutamine, vitamins, fish oil. I'm doing everything I can.

Your not doing cardio. That is a big part of this. Look we do not know you, we will never be in competition with each other. We are trying to scare you off this because you are going down a real bad road with consequence you do not understand. The rest of your life hopefully is a long time to be messed up. Do yourself a favor and take six months and do the cardio three miles a day or more, clean up the diet get a calorie counting app for your phone and count everything. No soda no chips no French fries no fried food at all. Bench is my specialty if that is what you are worried about, post your full workout we will all help you. Just don't dive into something like this without exhausting everything.

[Coolhand5599]

Clomide helps getting your test lvls back to normal?

You really have no idea what you are saying. The game is totally differnt past 25 years old. How things affect over 25 is not the same as under 25.

[Younggymking]

Okay just anwser me this. Why do all these other kids juice and seem
Just fine. I got a 2 friends same age as me. They took juice a year ago got off of it and are just fine now?

[austinite]

You're asking what clomid does? And you're confident that you are ready to cycle. Please do some research. I know you're here wanting information, but you will not get advice on cycling under 25. I don't believe that anything anyone here says will make a difference because you've made up your mind. Be careful, good luck. You can find all the answers with the search function.

[austinite]

Okay just anwser me this. Why do all these other kids juice and seem
Just fine. I got a 2 friends same age as me. They took juice a year ago got off of it and are just fine now?

Most everyone is fine when they start juicing, it's the long term effects that are so damaging to your body. You're seeing them now, not 10 to 15 years from now.

[Younggymking]

I've done my research I wasnt asking what clomide did. Ive read they prescribe anavar to children to help them
Grow.

[Coolhand5599]

Okay just anwser me this. Why do all these other kids juice and seem
Just fine. I got a 2 friends same age as me. They took juice a year ago got off of it and are just fine now?

I will tell you I only did one cycle at 18 I was fine unitll I was about 21 or 22. I am guessing not 100% of kids who take it get messed up. But almost everyone on this site that took Roids at a young age wishes they would not have. Every I have talked to has had problems.

[austinite]

I've done my research I wasnt asking what clomide did. Ive read they prescribe anavar to children to help them
Grow.

With huge deficiencies to bring them to normal levels, not to grow beyond.

Go to the nutri section and post what you eat. I promise you that the pros there will list a million things wrong with your diet. Then do the same in the workout routine forum. Get AAS off your mind. Just dont do it.

[numero_uno]

It was a joke to make a point.

Your point was loud and clear to me.

[numero_uno]

Okay just anwser me this. Why do all these other kids juice and seem
Just fine. I got a 2 friends same age as me. They took juice a year ago got off of it and are just fine now?

And if they keep it up, one day their mothers will have more testosterone than they do. But they will have bigger breasts than their mothers. You honest to god never heard of these kind of side effects before?

[numero_uno]

Workout is westsides. Max effort and speed days 5 times a week. I sleep 9 hours. I eat fruits and veggies in morning eggs and some type of pork around lunch, no fast food. Protein shake everyday even off days. I'm on creatine, bcaas, glutamine, vitamins, fish oil. I'm doing everything I can.

What is your bodyfat %? If you don't know, you should. You can also post a pic when you turn 18 (otherwise it would be kiddy porn) so we can estimate it for you.

Sorry for the sarcasm man, but this is a truly bad idea. You are actually talking right now to some people who have done exactly what you want to do and who wish they hadn't. Is that not sinking in at all?

Have some patience now and reap the benefits later.

I'm done for the night. Good luck.

[Hydroponics]

Dude the asshole side of me wants to say go for it, i did it, when i was 17, stunted my growth, had low test for the next few years, got gyno, had suicidal experiences, depression... Go for it! If ur smarter than i was at ur age im 22 now-finally almost back to normal btw, u wont do it!

[Bevsta123]

at 17 i dont think there is a "safe way" im 19 and not ignorant enough to just start juicing up cause i think iv been lifting my whole life. you sir are just plain stupid and will be the first to want awnsers on how to stop gyno or why you libido is stuffed so gtfo.



btw you have to be 18 to register on this site anyway. inb4butthurt

[JDBeretta]

I feel somehow more retarded after reading this thread.

Dude, do you think people are telling you not to juice because they're afraid that you're going to get bigger than them???

Give you head a shake and pick up some dumbbells and jump on a treadmill. Get your food intake dialed in and you'll be ready to get going with AAS in due time.

I wish I could spend a week with kids like you and drag them through some of my workouts... In a week you'd be like "holy f*ck, I can grow more!!"

[The Bear 79]

Younggymking, I would like to see you explain in detail the functions of the Endocrine system & the HPTA, including the age of full development / maturity. And then I would like to know what "bullet proof" plan you have / will set into motion that will completely & totally, 100% protect these undeveloped systems from being damaged. If you can show me that you know these systems inside out & that you have an absolutly fool proof plan to protect them, I will help you will your cycle..........from the very first injection all the way through to the blood work 45 days after PCT..........I will help you with the whole thing.

[Flacco]

If I take the right dosages and clomide in between CYCLES I think I would be fine. Atleast that's what I was told personally

Not even on his first one and already planning doing future cycles. You're fcked. Might as well castrate yourself now. All your friends your age who are juicing and are fine will feel the repracutions soon enough and you will too unless you decide not to follow the heard. I blame myself for not setting a good example and doing it the right way (naturally) when I was younger.

[gonzo6183]

Younggymking, I would like to see you explain in detail the functions of the Endocrine system & the HPTA, including the age of full development / maturity. And then I would like to know what "bullet proof" plan you have / will set into motion that will completely & totally, 100% protect these undeveloped systems from being damaged. If you can show me that you know these systems inside out & that you have an absolutly fool proof plan to protect them, I will help you will your cycle..........from the very first injection all the way through to the blood work 45 days after PCT..........I will help you with the whole thing.

In for this...

[Coolhand5599]

If you want to say the city you live in, I am sure someone on this site that lives in your area would be willing to workout with you and show you the mistakes you are making.

[gixxerboy1]

If I take the right dosages and clomide in between cycles I think I would be fine. Atleast that's what I was told personally

no true. there is a very real chance you will not recover. Your endocrine system isnt fully developed. So stopping it by going on cycle can permanently damage it. So your hormone levels may never be as high as they were, or they can be so low that you have issues for the rest of your life

[Bevsta123]

no true. there is a very real chance you will not recover. Your endocrine system isnt fully developed. So stopping it by going on cycle can permanently damage it. So your hormone levels may never be as high as they were, or they can be so low that you have issues for the rest of your life

Gixx i thought u had to be 18 to sign up to the forum anyway?

[gixxerboy1]

you do

[Younggymking]

The research I have done. Shows the ppl who completely can't make there own testosterone are the ones who abused it. Just someone please tell me a cycle to start the safest way.

[austinite]

The research I have done. Shows the ppl who completely can't make there own testosterone are the ones who abused it. Just someone please tell me a cycle to start the safest way.

No..

[gixxerboy1]

you research is either flawed or limited.

And nobody will help a 17 minor do illegal drugs

[binsser]

gutted your be fcked by 20 and you still wont listen then and just be a mess the rest of your life just becuase some people can lift a few pounds more than you no-one can help you m8 becuase no-one wants you hurt youve got to understand this for you its very very dangerous!!!??

[*Admin*]

You need to be 18 to be a member and I see you will be in a few... you would do good to listen to what these guys have to say... they have been there... and have regrets... most here wish someone had been honest with them... some would have been hard headed and not listened but some would have been saved some misery... and embarrassment as well as money trying to repair... do you honestly think yourfriends that have done a cycle have the answers and are assured of their future health... think again...