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    aas on the liver

    First does injecting aas hurt the liver or is it just orals ?
    Second how bad is var on the liver compared to injectable aas like test?

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    Also i have read a couple threads on milk thistle and they said that it is actually harmful to take because the liver does not work hard enough on it is this true or should liver protection be used always when on cycle?

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    injecting doesnt effect your liver

    milk thistle never did anything for my liver. I had blood work that showed no change
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Ok how bad is var on the liver?
    Is there a injectable var?

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    its hard to say. What is bad? Card of hard to measure. What dose for how long? It's better then winny for you.
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    60mg ed for 4 weeks then 70mg ed for two weeks

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    I am asking because a couple years ago like four years ago actually i had done some damage to my body preparing for a fight and over training badly. it took some time to recover but i did recover as far as i know. my liver and kidneys took a pounding at that time in my life and im healthy now so just want to know what im dealing with if i use var.

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    I have found var to be less taxing on the liver compared to other orals (ie. winyy,dbol ,drol, etc)

    But any oral will have an effect on the liver. It may be worse in some and not in others. Bloodwork is the best way to know

    As for mil thistle, as others have said, it did nothing for me. I used it with dbol, had bloodwork, and discovered it did little to nothing for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by spoon69 View Post
    60mg ed for 4 weeks then 70mg ed for two weeks
    Neither. IMO you will get little to nothing out of either one of those.

    Var needs to be run longer. I prefer a minimum of 6 weeks and find it best at 8

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    var will have an effect on your liver. Its hard to say how much in actual liver value numbers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noles12 View Post
    Neither. IMO you will get little to nothing out of either one of those.

    Var needs to be run longer. I prefer a minimum of 6 weeks and find it best at 8
    didnt even notice that. Its a waste to run it like that,
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    Sorry i meant 6 weeks total 4 at 60 2 at 70 6 weeks all together. thanks for the advice guys.

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    Why change the dose?

    By itself Var at that dosage and duration will bring about minimal gains.

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    both will affect the liver. injections not as much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roidsbro View Post
    both will affect the liver. injections not as much
    This is largely correct.

    Though I'm not certain how much/why, certain injectables do increase liver enzymes. Tren does for many, and EQ has been shown to increase them in recent animal studies.

    But any 17aa compound (whether oral or injectable) will indisputably raise liver enzymes.

    Moderate doses of Test, Nandrolone , Masteron , etc should have little to no effect on the liver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spoon69 View Post
    60mg ed for 4 weeks then 70mg ed for two weeks
    Buy enough to run for 7 weeks minimum

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