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    Mass phase of my cycle

    starting today.

    950 mg TEST EW
    500 mg TREN EW
    600mg EQ EW

    will add
    Masteron 200mg EW for anti-e/bloat control. later though.
    will add anadrol at 50 mg ED(i will drop the tren out at this time)

    then i will cruise on 250mg test E for 4-8 weeks until i get my gear together for the next blast.
    which i have planned already

    test 800-1000mgs EW
    Deca 600mg EW
    dbol 30-50mg ED 4 weeks on. 6 weeks off.

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    what are yuor stats?
    you need an ai. mast isnt sufficient
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    why is mast not good enough?

    that stuff dries you out very well IMO

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    it will not lower your estrogen levels sufficiently. Yes it has ai properties but it doesnt compare to running an ai
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    but you don't want estrogen completely wiped out - it helps in gaining.

    so my theory..as long as my nips are not hurting..then im in a good zone.

    and plus FOR ME" not everyone i hit the masteron if my nips are a little more sore than normal..and boom 2 weeks or so. they are significantly decreased in soreness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaynESTER View Post
    but you don't want estrogen completely wiped out - it helps in gaining.
    yes but you want it in the normal range. Check swifto's thread on ai's. High estro has health risks for men besides gyno.
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    okay, im not arguing my man. i just like to ask questions. or throw you different scenarios and what not.. just to see what you say.

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    never thought you were arguing. But nipps getting sore isnt a good meeter if your estrogen is high. When i was younger i ran cycles with out an ai. I never ever get gyno. Just im not sensitive to it for what ever reason. I can run 2 grams of test and not get gyno. But you know on that dose my estrogen would be threw the roof. My boy can take 500mgs of test and will get gyno symptoms right away. His blood levels of estrogen will be lower then mine. But he is just more sensitive.
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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