Why only test for firsty cycle

**Theking06$** · 07-23-2012, 04:06 PM

I have read several post that say only test 1st cycle,, Why ??
I have been informed that as a starter should be taking 1/2 cc each Test and tren !!

Tren is stated to be the best score 500 compared to test score 100

so why only test!!

all information is welcome **

**BlueWaffle21** · 07-23-2012, 04:14 PM

This is from Jimmyinkedup's sticky in the Newbie Starter Pack that you should be reading before you start AAS or ask a question.

"So many reasons a test only cycle should come first.
1- it is the bodies predominant naturally occuring hormone that will establish muscle mass.
2- It will -whether u start with it first cycle or not become the base for 90% of all future cycles , and if u think that doesnt apply cause u only wanna do one cycle...i got news for ya- after that one cycle you WILL wanna do more!
3- You need to know the effects of test on your body throughout a cycle - that way when when you do stack other compounds with it you can get a true guage or feeling for what they provide for you in terms of gains , sides etc. Almost all other feelings you establish on different steroids will be based on their interaction and synergy with test . This will be your "baseline". Later you might explore how 2 or 3 compounds (maybe more) synergistically interact with one another...but you need an accurate baseline - test will provide that as it is prob the only compound that stacks well with virtually every steroid ..
4 - IT WORKS ...WELL!
5- straightforward ,relatively easy pct
6- relatively easy to control sides
Oh and did i mention it works..WELL!"

**garryjohn89** · 07-23-2012, 04:15 PM

First cycle we recommend test only because you need to find out how your body will react to it...
Get used to one compound first and find out how many sides you may get if you get any at all...
If you jump straight onto test and tren you may develop signs of gyno and you mightn be able to work out which compound is causing it etc.

Then a few cycles in if your ready throw another compound in..

Hope this helps mate

"lift eat sleep & repeat..."

**< <Samson> >** · 07-23-2012, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by BlueWaffle21

This is from Jimmyinkedup's sticky in the Newbie Starter Pack that you should be reading before you start AAS or ask a question.

"So many reasons a test only cycle should come first.
1- it is the bodies predominant naturally occuring hormone that will establish muscle mass.
2- It will -whether u start with it first cycle or not become the base for 90% of all future cycles , and if u think that doesnt apply cause u only wanna do one cycle...i got news for ya- after that one cycle you WILL wanna do more!
3- You need to know the effects of test on your body throughout a cycle - that way when when you do stack other compounds with it you can get a true guage or feeling for what they provide for you in terms of gains , sides etc. Almost all other feelings you establish on different steroids will be based on their interaction and synergy with test . This will be your "baseline". Later you might explore how 2 or 3 compounds (maybe more) synergistically interact with one another...but you need an accurate baseline - test will provide that as it is prob the only compound that stacks well with virtually every steroid ..
4 - IT WORKS ...WELL!
5- straightforward ,relatively easy pct
6- relatively easy to control sides
Oh and did i mention it works..WELL!"

Well said, I think that covers everything quite well.

**anadrol50** · 07-23-2012, 04:21 PM

I'd never taken trenbo on my first cycle, or recommended any of it, you do not know how your body responds to steroids , That why you start with the testo and see how your body react, every cycle you take should contain testo anyways, trenbo is 3x stronger When testo.
trenbo ****s more with your head too

sorry for my bad english.

**Theking06$** · 07-23-2012, 04:24 PM

Under stand thanks
so 2 weeks in just stop the tren ??? now ! I know a little late in asking ??
shouild I increase the test

**BlueWaffle21** · 07-23-2012, 04:25 PM

Were you informed by your source? They are in it to make money and not for your best interests!!

**Theking06$** · 07-23-2012, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by samson_420

Well said, I think that covers everything quite well.

I've been reading for days still not clear on how it all works but I'm catching on
just work with me a little I wanna do it the correct way and not regret it !!

so I am planning Clomid as a pct

**Theking06$** · 07-23-2012, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by BlueWaffle21

Were you informed by your source? They are in it to make money and not for your best interests!!

You got that 1 correct so now I'm a little late in my home work but I'm doing it !

**gixxerboy1** · 07-23-2012, 04:38 PM

yes jsut stop the tren

**Theking06$** · 07-23-2012, 04:44 PM

done
Should I continue and increase from amount of test ??? Looking to do 16 weeks currently taking 1/2 cc every other day ?/

**frsttmer** · 07-23-2012, 04:49 PM

250mg/ml? What's your test dosed at?

**frsttmer** · 07-23-2012, 04:50 PM

Actually I guess you're using prop aren't u?

**Theking06$** · 07-23-2012, 05:15 PM

1/2 cc is equal to .5 ml every other day !

it would be approximately 100 mg=0.1ml
I am taking .5 ml every other day

**frsttmer** · 07-23-2012, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Theking06$

1/2 cc is equal to .5 ml every other day !

it would be approximately 100 mg=0.1ml
I am taking .5 ml every other day

Originally Posted by Theking06$

1/2 cc is equal to .5 ml every other day !

it would be approximately 100 mg=0.1ml
I am taking .5 ml every other day

100mg = .1ml and youre taking .5 eod? So you're taking 500mg eod? Did you mean 100mg=1 ml
If so then you're taking 50mgs eod, therefore you're taking 175/week??

500 is the recommended starting dose. So yes I would up your dose. Maybe try 1.25 eod which would take you up to 437/week, or you could do 1.5ml eod and that would get you to 525/week. unless my math is off or your test isn't 100mg=1ml

I would wait for other members to confirm, I'm still also learning and have never run prop.

**Theking06$** · 07-23-2012, 08:29 PM

So I believe the switch from 250 mg would equal .25 ml is equal to .25 cc ... ..???

Now I am taking 500mg every other day = .5 ml / .5 cc of test E is this correct looking for confirmation and proper dose for first timer . First cycle

Input welcome ? ! Ty

**BlueWaffle21** · 07-23-2012, 09:30 PM

I'm officially lost now!!

**gixxerboy1** · 07-23-2012, 09:45 PM

No .5 cc is only 125 mg. so you are taking less then 500 Mg a week not eod

**frsttmer** · 07-23-2012, 09:46 PM

I'm so confused... What is your test dose at and what ester
Example - 250mg/ml test enanthate

**AXx** · 07-23-2012, 09:47 PM

If your test E is dosed at 250mg per mL then in order to take 500mg a week to need to do 2mL or 2cc.

A mL and a CC are the same.

I was slow and didn't see where Gix posted. Beat me to it.

**frsttmer** · 07-23-2012, 09:49 PM

If its Test e 250mg/ml
Do 2 shots a week, Monday morning and Thursday evening.

Monday- 250mg - 1cc
Thursday 250mg -1cc

You have an ai and pct?

**frsttmer** · 07-23-2012, 09:53 PM

Have you been taking .5 ml eod for 2 weeks?

**1tuffmudder** · 07-23-2012, 10:23 PM

ya bro definitely need to read sticky's tons of info in educational section. read up

**Theking06$** · 07-24-2012, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by 1tuffmudder

ya bro definitely need to read sticky's tons of info in educational section. read up

We'll be reading all day time for a pin & gym !!
we'll clear it up this afternoon.

I posted planning clomid as pct !

suggjestions are always welcome.
the more everybody helps a first cyclest the better rep the process gets
ty

**Theking06$** · 07-24-2012, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by frsttmer

Have you been taking .5 ml eod for 2 weeks?

.5 ml every other day for two weeks yes . increased today ..

**frsttmer** · 07-24-2012, 08:44 AM

so you're taking 250 eod and now you're going to increase it? You just need to do 1 ml on Monday and 1 on thurs

**gixxerboy1** · 07-24-2012, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by frsttmer

so you're taking 250 eod and now you're going to increase it? You just need to do 1 ml on Monday and 1 on thurs

he is not taking 250mg eod. He is taking .5ml. eod . So that is 125 mg eod. I dont get why this is confusing

**frsttmer** · 07-24-2012, 11:30 AM

No longer confused

**juice work** · 07-24-2012, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Theking06$

I have read several post that say only test 1st cycle,, Why ??
I have been informed that as a starter should be taking 1/2 cc each Test and tren !!

Tren is stated to be the best score 500 compared to test score 100

so why only test!!

all information is welcome **

im running my first cycly and i wanted to stack so i did, but i would NEVER run tren man that shit can give you the worst nightmarish bitch tits you could ever imagine and all the sides you hear about come true with that shit. Just knowing i wouldnt be able to sleep and have a high heart rate also along with all the other terrible shit lol

My cycle is sustanon 300 1ml 2x a week and equipoise 250 1ml 2x week with 1ml test prop 200mg 2x week and i went from 171lbs up to 207lbs in 4-5 moths! dont start with tren because that shit is just nuts to start with, you wont look good with huge arms great legs and BITCH TITS or a popped heart

listen to the broskis here

**Theking06$** · 07-25-2012, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by juice work

im running my first cycly and i wanted to stack so i did, but i would NEVER run tren man that shit can give you the worst nightmarish bitch tits you could ever imagine and all the sides you hear about come true with that shit. Just knowing i wouldnt be able to sleep and have a high heart rate also along with all the other terrible shit lol

My cycle is sustanon 300 1ml 2x a week and equipoise 250 1ml 2x week with 1ml test prop 200mg 2x week and i went from 171lbs up to 207lbs in 4-5 moths! dont start with tren because that shit is just nuts to start with, you wont look good with huge arms great legs and BITCH TITS or a popped heart

listen to the broskis here

Thanks I am paying attention :::
Now just going with Test E for the remainder // should I be taking something else now or just wait and continue with Clomid as Pct ?/

**AXx** · 07-25-2012, 09:38 AM

An AI, would be good to take with it. Read the thread below a few by "SWIFTO" on why taking an AI is good.

Excuse my ignorance, that would be up ^ instead below, its the second stickie

**Theking06$** · 07-25-2012, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by 3Js

An AI, would be good to take with it. Read the thread below a few by "SWIFTO" on why taking an AI is good.

Excuse my ignorance, that would be up ^ instead below, its the second stickie

I read all of "swifto" post not fishing but should I call my supplier for // or can just order direct on line not sure how to obtain yet ??

**Theking06$** · 07-25-2012, 09:55 AM

So should I be running Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate) with Test E and if so at what doses ??

**Theking06$** · 07-25-2012, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by Theking06$

So should I be running Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate) with Test E and if so at what doses ??

Then continue with Clomid as Pct after last pin
This is a learning curve !! but I am sure it will all fall together soon
Teaching self the ropes // with all of your help is appreciated

**Theking06$** · 07-25-2012, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Theking06$

Then continue with Clomid as Pct after last pin
This is a learning curve !! but I am sure it will all fall together soon
Teaching self the ropes // with all of your help is appreciated

Somebody give it a shot ::: Running Test E only now in third week 1st cycle ever

?? So Nolvadex ( Tamoxifen Citrate) ??/
?? So Aromasin ??/

When to start using above mentioned and doses ??/ which 1 ?/ and if should just continue them as Pct as well or switch to something different for Pct ?/