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    First cycle Sustanon 250

    Hi Everyone, this site is great and so far I've done my research on cycles, pct and effects. I wanted to share my cycle info with everyone and ask for some opinions. I will be using Sustanon 250 for 8 weeks (inject every 6 days) , Nolvadex 20mg per day for duration of cycle and wait 17 days after last injection to start the PCT of 40/40/20/20 of Nolvadex as well. I have been taking Novadex 10mg per day for the last 3 days and will do so for the next 7 days before I begin my Sustanon cycle. I heard that Nolvadex before your cycle will get your body in gear to combat the estrogen better, is this right? I'm doing 8 weeks so as not to cause any undue effects plus that is my current supply.
    What should be my realistic expectation going in and is taking 20mg per day Nolvadex during my cycle enough to minimize gyno and water retention. I was thinking 7-10pounds of lean muscle to build using the above, am I correct?

    Here are my stats:
    170lbs
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    4/5 gym per week

    Looking forward to everyone's opinion ...

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    I'm not trying to be a smart ass but did you get this info from this site and reading past post?

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    I smell troll

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo
    I'm not trying to be a smart ass but did you get this info from this site and reading past post?
    Lmao....can't get anything past our vets. Even at diminished capacity, Cape is still balls to the wall!! Lol

    Good call too Beck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Lmao....can't get anything past our vets. Even at diminished capacity, Cape is still balls to the wall!! Lol

    Good call too Beck!
    My spidey sense made my balls tingle. I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

    My spidey sense made my balls tingle. I think
    Tingles are ok. Cramping on the other hand.....no bueno!

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    I have been reading multiple steroid forums to get info on what to buy and just recently I went down to my source to get my supply. I really want to know what you think as I'm not being a troll (nor
    do I know what that means) I'm trying to get info on what to expect and if my proper mix is correct. I did post earlier on the new member forum but did not get any response, so I posted here at this forum to get some good opinions...please share your thoughts ....

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    Start over. Use the search bar first cycle or test only cycle. Read the post. See what you find that's different than what you have. Do for pct and ai as well

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    Sounds fair, can I ask you what realistic gains should I expect to have during this cycle?

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    I read that the PCT quantity that I have is on par with what many threads recommend but I couldn't seem to find the correct amount of Nolvadex to take while I am on the cycle, is my 20mg okay or do I need to vary it up or down?

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    Gains are an individual thing. I'll start you off. clomid an novla pct. novla 40/20/20/20. Look for ai. Benefit of hcg .

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    I scrolled down on this page. See how easy?

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...0#.UA35K4l5nTo

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    Thanks for the help , what was ur experience from your first cycle ?

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    Is it necessary to use Nolvadex before you begin your cycle to get your body use to the estrogen blockers or is it overkill ??

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    LOL, at Cape.



    Dude read up. Do not run sust as a first cycle. Using Test with 1 ester is the way to go.

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    I am using sustamix which is the same, except its made in a dodgey lab in China. I've gained over 20lb in just over 5 weeks now. Although it was mostly depleted weight. Definitely a great steroid . What you will find is that if you arent prepared to put in some hard work, it'll be a waste of money though.
    Last edited by Tasmaniac; 07-24-2012 at 12:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wellsdelta View Post
    Is it necessary to use Nolvadex before you begin your cycle to get your body use to the estrogen blockers or is it overkill ??
    I can't see how this would provide any true significant advantage. I doubt it will hurt anything but doubt it will make any difference either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-dogg View Post
    LOL, at Cape.



    Dude read up. Do not run sust as a first cycle. Using Test with 1 ester is the way to go.
    Why do you say that? I prefer single ester testosterone compounds myself but I can't see how using Sust in a first cycle would cause any type of problem...it's still just testosterone. Besides, the very reason Sust was made in the first place was for TRT patients, people who have never used any exogenous testosterone. My overall point...Sust is not some sort of "advanced" testosterone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    My spidey sense made my balls tingle. I think


    I think the tingling sensation is probably atrophy from AAS

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMcB View Post
    I think the tingling sensation is probably atrophy from AAS
    Buuuya....haha
    seriously you need to do some more research before starting your cycle you need to tweek some of your information and approach, sorry I don't feel like explaining what can be obtained easily through the sticky pages on first cycles..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalject View Post
    Why do you say that? I prefer single ester testosterone compounds myself but I can't see how using Sust in a first cycle would cause any type of problem...it's still just testosterone. Besides, the very reason Sust was made in the first place was for TRT patients, people who have never used any exogenous testosterone. My overall point...Sust is not some sort of "advanced" testosterone.

    Never said it was advanced. Most would agree running a single ester first is best. You could have a reaction to it and not know where to start. Start as simple as you can, and go from there.

    Also, I saw no AI to run while on cycle or HCG for that matter.


    Also, he wanted to run sust for only 8wks which really isnt long enought wouldnt you agree? Frist cycle should be 10-12wks with a longer ester agreed?
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    Atleast 10 weeks I feel. About to run first cycle with 500mg sust per week. Would like a single ester but already have sust on hand. I will be pinning EOD for first 3 weeks to help stabilize test levels, then E3D after week 3. Also, pick up some aromasin .

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    Thanks everyone for your opinions... So running Novladex before cycle is useless I've learned from reading your posts... I will need to contact my supplier and request more sustanon for two more weeks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-dogg View Post
    Never said it was advanced. Most would agree running a single ester first is best. You could have a reaction to it and not know where to start. Start as simple as you can, and go from there.

    Also, I saw no AI to run while on cycle or HCG for that matter.


    Also, he wanted to run sust for only 8wks which really isnt long enought wouldnt you agree? Frist cycle should be 10-12wks with a longer ester agreed?
    Have a reaction? I guess I'm not following what you're saying. What possible reaction could you have with Sust that that you couldn't have with Test-e or Cyp?

    Yes, a single large ester is best for simplicities sake, I do agree and 8wks is a bit on the short end of things. As for HCG, I'm fairly anti-HCG when it comes to on cycle use...I actually think it's one of the most damaging things anyone can do. As for AI's, they can be great but they're not always needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-dogg View Post
    Never said it was advanced. Most would agree running a single ester first is best. You could have a reaction to it and not know where to start. Start as simple as you can, and go from there.

    Also, I saw no AI to run while on cycle or HCG for that matter.


    Also, he wanted to run sust for only 8wks which really isnt long enought wouldnt you agree? Frist cycle should be 10-12wks with a longer ester agreed?
    Whilst i would agree with your theory it doesn't matter so much when we are talking test only, if the op wanted to run a first cycle of say test , deca and dbol then i would say you are correct but test is test is test.....

    I also agree with Metalject on the ai, i guess its always handy to have one on hand but wouldn't imagine it would be needed for a test only cycle...
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