Whats the age that the average male needs trt

[Mr_Prop_var_Testen]

Mean what is the average age for healthy men that they're test levels drop to the extent where they either accept the lower quality of life or resort to trt without any prior steroid use .

[austinite]

40.

For me it was 27, but didnt give in till age 31. That's because I chose to run a cycle at age 19.

[manmanman]

I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure I've read test peaks around 25 then declines untill 30-35, That's for a general basis tho.

[austinite]

I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure I've read test peaks around 25 then declines untill 30-35, That's for a general basis tho.

a decline does not necessarily require TRT.

[Times Roman]

I think that for the "average" male, trt is something to consider in your 40's. But...

....jjust because you are in your 40's doesn't necessarily mean you should TRT!

[manmanman]

I can see what you mean, some people go whole life's without trt

[Times Roman]

....and besides

look at Jack Lalannne! he was vital into his 90's, and wouldn't ever consider that "stuff".

just because you age doesn't mean you need trt

[austinite]

....and besides

look at Jack Lalannne! he was vital into his 90's, and wouldn't ever consider that "stuff".

just because you age doesn't mean you need trt

lol, yeah. He said his secret was wine and sex in an interview once.

[< <Samson> >]

I always wondered if he really did juice.


But, I would think 40's. . . . Cycle for about a decade to 15 years then run TRT for life. TRT Does sound quite life changing, at least for myself.

[fit2bOld]

I'd say 40-50 is an average with lots of exceptions. Cycling, heredity, medical conditions. I started at around 48.

[Judah]

Do your test levels continue to drop as you get older or is ther a "terminal velocity" that you just reach somewhere in 30's/40's and it stays the same?

[Times Roman]

Do your test levels continue to drop as you get older or is ther a "terminal velocity" that you just reach somewhere in 30's/40's and it stays the same?

test levels continue to drop the older you get, until around your 90's when you reach your terminal velocity of just above zero. some believe that the upperlimits of aging are a reflection of our hormone levels, and by artificially keeping our hormone levels high, we can extend our upper age limit by as much as 30% or more. There are groups of people now that are testing this theory, using themselves as guniee pigs so to speak, and we shall learn in 20 or 30 years how that goes. for example, there are groups of people that are on caloric restricted diets that seriously expect to live til their 120's.

I always wondered if he really did juice.


But, I would think 40's. . . . Cycle for about a decade to 15 years then run TRT for life. TRT Does sound quite life changing, at least for myself.

NO. Jack Lalanne did NOT juice. he got his start shortly after ww2, and developed his belief system before steroids became popular.

....the only juice he was interested in came out of a blender! =)
(jack is definately the man!!)

[< <Samson> >]

some believe that the upperlimits of aging are a reflection of our hormone levels, and by artificially keeping our hormone levels high, we can extend our upper age limit by as much as 30% or more. There are groups of people now that are testing this theory, using themselves as guniee pigs so to speak, and we shall learn in 20 or 30 years how that goes. for example, there are groups of people that are on caloric restricted diets that seriously expect to live til their 120's.

That is amazing. . .The best shit I like so far is how Stallone looks at his age. Tell me that's not amazing. . . . HGH for sure, paired with a amazing workout + who knows what else.

[Judah]

That is amazing. . .The best shit I like so far is how Stallone looks at his age. Tell me that's not amazing. . . . HGH for sure, paired with a amazing workout + who knows what else.

He cloned himself. I think he is on his 3rd clone now.

[NotMelborn]

test

[< <Samson> >]

He cloned himself. I think he is on his 3rd clone now.

Fvck man, it looks like it

[Honkey_Kong]

That is amazing. . .The best shit I like so far is how Stallone looks at his age. Tell me that's not amazing. . . . HGH for sure, paired with a amazing workout + who knows what else.

Yeah, except for Stallone's retardedly drooping face, I want to look like him when I'm in my 60's.

[< <Samson> >]

Yeah, except for Stallone's retardedly drooping face

I read up on that, his perma drooping look is from severed nervous he got when he was born.


Sorry for the thread jack with Stallone's coolness. . . But, really though that's why taking it easy key. Don't get Trenned out at 25 to get swoled up in 6 months. No need for that shit, life is too important to fvck yourself up.

I am not looking forward to a life time of shots. But, if it helps out and not fvck me up - Fvck yeah, I'll do it. I don't see an issue with steroid use , just not abuse.

But, it's not just juice or GH that gives you Stallone like results. It helps, but you know it's a life long commitment and the best of everything for the last 40 years.

[stpete]

Fvck man, it looks like it

This is one of your better posts. thanks.

[Mr_Prop_var_Testen]

So u guys think hrt done right not only gives u better life quality but it also dose not carry any health risks long term hgh/test
As im now on my second real cycle and I'm 32 and I plan to run 1 cycle a year
My test levels at 30 were 575 and this year 1 month post pct of my first test cycle was 450
I'm gonna give myself more time between this and the nex cycle hope I don't have to resort to trt any time soon.

[stpete]

Don't even worry about it. do your cycles and PCT. I'm 43 and have cycled since 1997 w/no issues at all. And some of my cycles have been long and crazy.

[Brohim]

I think if you do moderate doses of test only and keep to 1 cycle a year and stay away from highly supressive meds like deca you should recover fine.

[Times Roman]

So u guys think hrt done right not only gives u better life quality but it also dose not carry any health risks long term hgh/test
As im now on my second real cycle and I'm 32 and I plan to run 1 cycle a year
My test levels at 30 were 575 and this year 1 month post pct of my first test cycle was 450
I'm gonna give myself more time between this and the nex cycle hope I don't have to resort to trt any time soon.

Mate,
if you need trt, then yes, it will give you a better quality of life, and the health risks are very maneagable once you know what you are doing.

One moderate cycle a year is very reasonable, and I usually do one or two myself. Certain things I probably won't do again, like deca , since it's a mutha fukker on your tool if you are ED prone. I'm just now coming out of it, but it takes work and time.

Yes, it is a well known fact that as one ages, their test levels, including HGH, will continue to drop until sometime around their 90's when it bottoms out just above zero, like around 5 or 10% of their youthful peak.

Good luck!
---Roman

[Mr_Prop_var_Testen]

Mate,
if you need trt, then yes, it will give you a better quality of life, and the health risks are very maneagable once you know what you are doing.

One moderate cycle a year is very reasonable, and I usually do one or two myself. Certain things I probably won't do again, like deca , since it's a mutha fukker on your tool if you are ED prone. I'm just now coming out of it, but it takes work and time.

Yes, it is a well known fact that as one ages, their test levels, including HGH, will continue to drop until sometime around their 90's when it bottoms out just above zero, like around 5 or 10% of their youthful peak.

Good luck!
---Roman

I really like the primo with low dose test I think the benefits vs sides is really in perfect ratio and I really feel comfortable that primo almost has no sides.
I wish I would make it to 90 most men in Egypt where I live don't make it till 70!!!

[Honkey_Kong]

I read up on that, his perma drooping look is from severed nervous he got when he was born.


Sorry for the thread jack with Stallone's coolness. . . But, really though that's why taking it easy key. Don't get Trenned out at 25 to get swoled up in 6 months. No need for that shit, life is too important to fvck yourself up.

I am not looking forward to a life time of shots. But, if it helps out and not fvck me up - Fvck yeah, I'll do it. I don't see an issue with steroid use , just not abuse.

But, it's not just juice or GH that gives you Stallone like results. It helps, but you know it's a life long commitment and the best of everything for the last 40 years.

Yeah, I heard it was a stroke he had at infancy. It really doesn't matter, but it probably was what initially motivated him to get in to shape though.

But yeah all the gear in the world isn't going to get somebody into shape without dieting and training. He earned every bit of that body.

[Stickman123]

The average male will never need TRT. A small percentage of us, for whatever reason, will become symptomatic of low test levels and seek treatment.

[Times Roman]

The average male will never need TRT. A small percentage of us, for whatever reason, will become symptomatic of low test levels and seek treatment.

OK. didn't want to get in a debate over the meanings of the words "want" and "need".

Would you agree that a good percentage of men in their 40's would BENEFIT from TRT?

[< <Samson> >]

This is one of your better posts. thanks.

Thanks man, good lookin' out

As good as

Don't even worry about it. do your cycles and PCT. I'm 43 and have cycled since 1997 w/no issues at all. And some of my cycles have been long and crazy.

Since this applies to who? And when? Is this a benchmark for others to follow(I don't think so)?

Just keep it simple, we all know that. The easier you go on yourself the longer you last. . . . . < I'm sticking to it & maybe the above will apply to myself. But, who really knows. . . Everyone's body is different. Fvck, some people require TRT at a young age and haven't even juiced.

[ScotchGuard02]

I don't think there an "age" that men need TRT. Any guy I take on as a client over 35, I have them take a full hormone profile test. Almost all of them are "normal". Ok, let's define "normal". For optimal health, fat management, high energy, etc. we need to be in the top 1/3 of the "normal" range. Most guys are at or below 50% of "normal". Almost all of my clients in their 40's and older are below 50% of "normal" Test range. I tell them that if they want to get rid of their "estrogen belt" (belly fat), even though the Doc say's they're in the "normal" range, they need to get on TRT. The difference if life changing for most guys that have low Test.