Did the TEST only cycles. What is next for me?

[luda281]

It's not that I don't like your advice. It makes perfect sense to work one diet. It's the lack of advice for my original question

[Lunk1]

Cycle 1: test e 500mg only.10 weeks. Pct 4 weeks: nolvadex , test booster, formastanzol
Gains:6-7lbs

Cycle 2: 12 weeks test e 500mg + tbol 40mg + aromasin 12.5ed. Pct nolvadex, test booster
Gains: 9lbs

I've been told that im ready to do a an amateur show now. So I think I'm in pretty good shape. Not looking to gain 20lbs. Just 5-10 solid good weight

You want 10 lbs...this worked for you before...do it again! Why fix what isn't broke!!!

[gixxerboy1]

It's not that I don't like your advice. It makes perfect sense to work one diet. It's the lack of advice for my original question

because no cycle will allow you to keep 10more lbs of muscle with out changing your diet. What dont you understand. THe bigger you are the more calories it takes to maintain it

[Brohim]

It's not that I don't like your advice. It makes perfect sense to work one diet. It's the lack of advice for my original question

You have a hard head. Your diet pertains to your question. Your question is what cycle to do next. THe answer is YOU DON'T NEED STEROIDS TO GAIN 5 LBS.

[luda281]

You have a hard head. Your diet pertains to your question. Your question is what cycle to do next. THe answer is YOU DON'T NEED STEROIDS TO GAIN 5 LBS.

If its so easy why do you juice?

[luda281]

We all know the gains get harder and harder. I gained 30lbs over the years. I think im doing ok so far. I didn't start out heavy like most guys.

[Lunk1]

Look...I gave you your answer in post #42. That with an increase in calories will gain you your 10 lbs.

I am afraid the real problem here is that you just want answers on adding OTHER compounds when there is really no need

[gixxerboy1]

We all know the gains get harder and harder. I gained 30lbs over the years. I think im doing ok so far. I didn't start out heavy like most guys.

Nobody said you didn't make good gains. I started skinny too. But you can only get so far with your current diet. And you've reached that point.

[luda281]

You have a hard head. Your diet pertains to your question. Your question is what cycle to do next. THe answer is YOU DON'T NEED STEROIDS TO GAIN 5 LBS.

No you have a hard time understanding the question. It was, "what's a good cycle after test alone?" Not "is my diet good enough for a cycle?" diet is one issue i plan to address already

[luda281]

Look...I gave you your answer in post #42. That with an increase in calories will gain you your 10 lbs.

I am afraid the real problem here is that you just want answers on adding OTHER compounds when there is really no need

So you're saying stick with just test?


Once again everyone I plan to address my diet before I even start the cycle. Either way I'm gonna cycle. We are all here for the same reason. Steroids ! This isn't a how to gain naturally site. This is a steroids site . So I don't understand why everyone acts like they prefer to do it naturally.

[gixxerboy1]

Another test cycle. You don't need to add anything

[luda281]

Another test cycle. You don't need to add anything

Thank you! Lol

[Lunk1]

Thank you! Lol

Problem solved, another happy camper. Next we should see a post from ya in the nutrition section.....right?

[JohnnyVegas]

Seriously I dont understand. You guys talk about having forums to help people and call people your bros but noone ever seems to want to help. I mean do you guys have the perfect body, perfect workouts, and perfect diets? Am I missing something here? Obviously if I didn't gain from my previous cycles with an ok diet then I wouldn't be trying to cycle again lol.


I just don't uderstand it. I do two cycles a year. I'm not abusing. I'm sure some of you guy do 4-5 because people start depending on the "on" feel. But I'm not good enough to get help.


I'm asking a simple question. What's your opinion on a stack above just test e?

I mean if you guys dont think I deserve any suggestions then I completely understand. I'll just go somewhere else to ask for help. No hard feelings.

Seriously my diet is average. I'm prob show ready now but you guys put me down as if I'm some overweight noob. And in another thread you guys tell others to get their bf% down first but in mine you say get it up. Lol seems like some
Bros just don't want to help

I see you are frustrated that your specific question wasn't answered. That happened because everyone here thought your real question was, "how can I put on more muscle." They want to make sure that you don't just take a larger risk with your health with little reward. Just saying, "add some Deca to your Test" wouldn't really by a complete answer.

[Capebuffalo]

Seriously judging by your pic, you're smaller than me. Your diet is obviously bad too . You look what? 5'9 160?Im assuming you have never cycled in your life becaus you're working on yor diet right? If you have cycled thenn you're obviously a hypocrit


How are you gonna sit there and tell me I shouldn't do another cycle and diet web you're skinnier than me? I mean are you telling me you like being thin? You can't be consuming more than 2500-3k a day

Your numbers are a little off. But your right I started this week working on my diet. 4000 cals a day . 6 Meals. Know why ? Because diet is the most important thing. Please let me have the link you mentioned. I would love to see our similar body types. Your being slightly better though.

[Lunk1]

Your numbers are a little off. But your right I started this week working on my diet. 4000 cals a day . 6 Meals. Know why ? Because diet is the most important thing. Please let me have the link you mentioned. I would love to see our similar body types. Your being slightly better though.

Cape...you want some of my cals, I can't eat em all!

[Capebuffalo]

Cape...you want some of my cals, I can't eat em all!

Eating them is the hard part. 4th meal and I'm still full from#3 . Thanks for the thought though. I need to i.v a chicken breast

[Lunk1]

I just had #2 and I am trying to CUT and i am getting so full i want to puke. To think that the op has been eating enough lol.

[Capebuffalo]

I just had #2 and I am trying to CUT and i am getting so full i want to puke. To think that the op has been eating enough lol.

It is honestly becoming a part time job. Preparing the food . Packaging the food. Eating the food.

[JohnnyVegas]

It is honestly becoming a part time job. Preparing the food . Packaging the food. Eating the food.

Agreed. I hate doing all those things. If I didn't cook ten pounds of chicken at a time I would truly hate making food. Now that I have moved my office to my house, I don't have to package all my food to take to work any more. Love that.

[Misery13]

Seriously I dont understand. You guys talk about having forums to help people and call people your bros but noone ever seems to want to help. I mean do you guys have the perfect body, perfect workouts, and perfect diets? Am I missing something here? Obviously if I didn't gain from my previous cycles with an ok diet then I wouldn't be trying to cycle again lol


I just don't uderstand it. I do two cycles a year. I'm not abusing. I'm sure some of you guy do 4-5 because people start depending on the "on" feel. But I'm not good enough to get help.


I'm asking a simple question. What's your opinion on a stack above just test e?

I mean if you guys dont think I deserve any suggestions then I completely understand. I'll just go somewhere else to ask for help. No hard feelings.

Seriously my diet is average. I'm prob show ready now but you guys put me down as if I'm some overweight noob. And in another thread you guys tell others to get their bf% down first but in mine you say get it up. Lol seems like some
Bros just don't want to help

Everyone has the same questions. But not everyone gets the same answer. You asked a question and posted your stats. They gave you the best advice based off of what we know about you. I'm sorry that you didn't like it, but honestly its what you need to do. I don't know what it is that you do for a living that doesn't allow for you to eat enough. But there are 24hrs in a day. I have gained 110lbs in the last 17yrs. I'm a SF soldier in the United States Army. Find the ****ing time. Do what your told by the highly intelligent people who's time your wasting on this fine board or go away. That is all for now.

[luda281]

Your numbers are a little off. But your right I started this week working on my diet. 4000 cals a day . 6 Meals. Know why ? Because diet is the most important thing. Please let me have the link you mentioned. I would love to see our similar body types. Your being slightly better though.

Pmed bro! I'll let you tell me and everyone what I need to work on since you're pro

[Lunk1]

Everyone has the same questions. But not everyone gets the same answer. You asked a question and posted your stats. They gave you the best advice based off of what we know about you. I'm sorry that you didn't like it, but honestly its what you need to do. I don't know what it is that you do for a living that doesn't allow for you to eat enough. But there are 24hrs in a day. I have gained 110lbs in the last 17yrs. I'm a SF soldier in the United States Army. Find the ****ing time. Do what your told by the highly intelligent people who's time your wasting on this fine board or go away. That is all for now.

Man after my heart right there! Tell it how it is...no suger coating. Even if he is Army

[luda281]

Everyone talks about eating big. Seems to me some of you guys worry too much about getting bigger because you can't cut down. Seriously no offense but the pics in your avatar hardly show someone who should be eating more. I mean we are all here for bodybuilding right? Not power lifters


If eating a perfect diet was that easy, we'd all be Jay cutlers and Ronnie Colemans. Look I'm not the perfect bodybuilder. But I'm working to get everything right. It doesn't happen overnight

[Lunk1]

Everyone talks about eating big. Seems to me some of you guys worry too much about getting bigger because you can't cut down. Seriously no offense but the pics in your avatar hardly show someone who should be eating more. I mean we are all here for bodybuilding right? Not power lifters


If eating a perfect diet was that easy, we'd all be Jay cutlers and Ronnie Colemans. Look I'm not the perfect bodybuilder. But I'm working to get everything right. It doesn't happen overnight

Now you are just being down right offensive. I am a sexy mofo in my AVI. The muscle in my shoulders weigh as much as you do! I tried to help but you hurt my feelings!!

[Capebuffalo]

Pmed bro! I'll let you tell me and everyone what I need to work on since you're pro

What do I do once I get to the website? Because I know your not the guy with the tattoos.

[Juced_porkchop]

Lol diet is not very good. It's just genetics. I can't eat a lot. I use to be 125lbs. My body is just not use to eating 6 meals a day. I'd be lucky to get in 5 meals. But I do try to cover as much protein, carbs, and calories as possible

then no point to aas.
you wopnt gains if you cant eata nd train. take tumeric root or ginger root pils 2X a day to make you eat more (good for you too)
you need diet not aas in my OP aswell.


PS. add in lots of good fats like olive oil to everything you can (pasta, protein drinks, foods ect.) helps with gains and cals

also peanutbutter is calori dense
you need calori dense
you can get cals in in 3-4 meals but 5 I like most (+ snack).

[luda281]

What do I do once I get to the website? Because I know your not the guy with the tattoos.

Rofl email me bro. My email is on that website. I'm Asian bro. Email me and I'll email you back. I have a koi on the left forearm and two foo dogs on the right arm. I'm not gonna send you a link of someone else. I also have a page on bodybuilding. Com If you wanna look at that one.

[luda281]

then no point to aas.
you wopnt gains if you cant eata nd train. take tumeric root or ginger root pils 2X a day to make you eat more (good for you too)
you need diet not aas in my OP aswell.




PS. add in lots of good fats like olive oil to everything you can (pasta, protein drinks, foods ect.) helps with gains and cals

also peanutbutter is calori dense
you need calori dense
you can get cals in in 3-4 meals but 5 I like most (+ snack).

Lol I've already done aas and i get gains I just eat more. But thanks I'll do your diet tips

[Capebuffalo]

Rofl email me bro. My email is on that website. I'm Asian bro. Email me and I'll email you back. I have a koi on the left forearm and two foo dogs on the right arm. I'm not gonna send you a link of someone else. I also have a page on bodybuilding. Com If you wanna look at that one.

Buddy if that's you on the top of the site with the tats I give you all the props. I have no idea what you are doing here. You have your own fitness website. Good job you look a lot better than me. Would you mind if I
Share the site with a couple of people who commented on this thread.

[600@50]

Luda......It seems you already have the answer to your question of how to gain 10 more lbs. Why don't you just stick with the 500 mgs of test for a cycle or 2? You said you gained 6 lbs on that dosage so just do another couple of test only cycles. But remember as your weight goes up you will have to eat more to gain the muscle and to keep it.

So really what's wrong with being 5'8" and 230 lbs? At age 23 I weighed 165-170. I gained all this through diet and a trt dose of test because of cycles done earlier. The 10 lbs you're after may cost you your nuts too.

[Lunk1]

Buddy if that's you on the top of the site with the tats I give you all the props. I have no idea what you are doing here. You have your own fitness website. Good job you look a lot better than me. Would you mind if I
Share the site with a couple of people who commented on this thread.

I'd like in on it.....

[Capebuffalo]

I'd like in on it.....

You should have him pm you the website. 2 sites actually. Can't understand why he's here though. He is obviously beyond anyone here but the hulk and Fireguy

[Lunk1]

You should have him pm you the website. 2 sites actually. Can't understand why he's here though. He is obviously beyond anyone here but the hulk and Fireguy

PM'd!!!

[luda281]

Buddy if that's you on the top of the site with the tats I give you all the props. I have no idea what you are doing here. You have your own fitness website. Good job you look a lot better than me. Would you mind if I
Share the site with a couple of people who commented on this thread.

Look bro I never said I was some out of shape kid. I feel pretty good about my physique but I strive to be better. Aas is new to me, ive only been introduce less than 2 years. Before aas I thought pro hormones were the shit. Like I said I've done test e but I want to try to bump it up. Didn't get too much sides from test. Just acne at the end of cycle into pct which I hated and puffy nipples but that's because I was underdosinf my aromasin doing it e3d at first then I realized it has to be taken Ed



No I don't mind you sharing my site but I just don't want to post my pics and links on this forum. Thats all.


Some might say I don't need help but I feel like I do.

[luda281]

Luda......It seems you already have the answer to your question of how to gain 10 more lbs. Why don't you just stick with the 500 mgs of test for a cycle or 2? You said you gained 6 lbs on that dosage so just do another couple of test only cycles. But remember as your weight goes up you will have to eat more to gain the muscle and to keep it.

So really what's wrong with being 5'8" and 230 lbs? At age 23 I weighed 165-170. I gained all this through diet and a trt dose of test because of cycles done earlier. The 10 lbs you're after may cost you your nuts too.

Hey to each his own. I just can't imagine myself being anywhere near 200. But I'm built real compact so I actually look 180-190lbs. I will do test e again and either throw Ina. Kick start or do anavar at the end. My nuts did shrink on test but they are nicely plump now. Feels real good to grab my balls after they were small for so long lol.


I feel y'all on the eating and I'm trying.

[luda281]

You should have him pm you the website. 2 sites actually. Can't understand why he's here though. He is obviously beyond anyone here but the hulk and Fireguy

I did not come to this site thinking I was bigger than anyone. I figured everyone here is a pro so I'm trying to get some advice. I've been lucky to respond really well to anythjng I do and anything I take IMO. I build my body proportionally rather than just Hittin chest everyday lol

[JAB1]

You should have him pm you the website. 2 sites actually. Can't understand why he's here though. He is obviously beyond anyone here but the hulk and Fireguy

Now Im interested. How is he beyond everyone at 165??? I want the link too

[Bevsta123]

Everyone talks about eating big. Seems to me some of you guys worry too much about getting bigger because you can't cut down. Seriously no offense but the pics in your avatar hardly show someone who should be eating more. I mean we are all here for bodybuilding right? Not power lifters


If eating a perfect diet was that easy, we'd all be Jay cutlers and Ronnie Colemans. Look I'm not the perfect bodybuilder. But I'm working to get everything right. It doesn't happen overnight

your starting to sound more retarded on each post OP.

Its funny because you go on about how you want to cycle its feeling like the whole Patz thread again with you not wanting to listen to anyone saying you wont grow rar rar rar. i stopped paying attention to your posts a while pack as i felt like my IQ was dropping by the second! You dont seem to understand and im taking this from you from how you said you only "kept 6lbs" in your 1 test e cycle... You dont understand with proper diet you could get that 10lbs easy as **** (staying under 10%BF) in the 18 weeks (12 week cycle, 2 weeks pct wait, 4 weeks pct) all without damaging your body. Stop being ignorant OP, go to Patz thread and look how everyone realized how much of an idiot he was which led to us officially not giving a fvck and not want to help him.

PS. What you said about eating perfectly and bout ronnies and cutlers size take your own advice "It doesnt happen overnight" you need to stop preaching to others until you can take your own advice.

This \/

Let's try this again. List everything you ate yesterday. Bevsta

Come at me bro haha :P its still funny cause we have both told him yet he still avoids telling us haha

[Lunk1]

UPDATE: I saw some pics of "someone" on a web site that he pm'd Cape and I. IFit's really him then he should be here sahring workout advise with quite a few of us. I then asked the OP to send me a pic doing something I requested to assure that it REALLY was him. I got the pic but it was to difficult to match the pic sent to the web site pics. I asked for another specific pic (yes I am a pain in the arse) and have not gotten it yet. I will say this, if that's 165 I would sh!t cause dude looks 200lbs large! Props to ya op IF it is you...still waiting on that pic.