Did the TEST only cycles. What is next for me?

[kmms]

It is honestly becoming a part time job. Preparing the food . Packaging the food. Eating the food.

that's what girlfriends are for!

without mine i wouldn't bother doing this.

[luda281]

Pm me your phone number and I'll send you proof it's me bro. You too bevsta your talkin a lot of shitt like I'm some noob to bodybuilding. I hope you have some badass physique to be talkin to ppl the way you do

[Capebuffalo]

Pm me your phone number and I'll send you proof it's me bro. You too bevsta your talkin a lot of shitt like I'm some noob to bodybuilding. I hope you have some badass physique to be talkin to ppl the way you do

How to win friends and influence people, is not this .

[cel89]

Seriously I dont understand. You guys talk about having forums to help people and call people your bros but noone ever seems to want to help. I mean do you guys have the perfect body, perfect workouts, and perfect diets? Am I missing something here? Obviously if I didn't gain from my previous cycles with an ok diet then I wouldn't be trying to cycle again lol.


I just don't uderstand it. I do two cycles a year. I'm not abusing. I'm sure some of you guy do 4-5 because people start depending on the "on" feel. But I'm not good enough to get help.


I'm asking a simple question. What's your opinion on a stack above just test e?

I mean if you guys dont think I deserve any suggestions then I completely understand. I'll just go somewhere else to ask for help. No hard feelings.

Seriously my diet is average. I'm prob show ready now but you guys put me down as if I'm some overweight noob. And in another thread you guys tell others to get their bf% down first but in mine you say get it up. Lol seems like some
Bros just don't want to help

1 year ago I thought the exact same as you but then i figured out to get you body where you want its going to be about 70% nutrition and 30 % exercise. trust me mate I was in your exact position

[Capebuffalo]

that's what girlfriends are for!

without mine i wouldn't bother doing this.

Tell me about it. I'm between girlfriends right now.

And my wife won't do it.

[Lunk1]

Tell me about it. I'm between girlfriends right now.

And my wife won't do it.

Another reason I keep telling the wife I need a mistress for Xmas!

[Capebuffalo]

Another reason I keep telling the wife I need a mistress for Xmas!

Let me know the exact wording you use and verb-age.

[kelkel]

Better yet, video it please.

[luda281]

1 year ago I thought the exact same as you but then i figured out to get you body where you want its going to be about 70% nutrition and 30 % exercise. trust me mate I was in your exact position

Which is total bullshiit to me. My diet has never been perfect. It's had decent moments but I acheived a lot with a lack of a proper diet bodybuilders are suppose to have because I worked my asss off in the gym, have good genetics, and of of course the help of supplements and aas


The kitchen is important but I think it's bullshjt thst someone says it's 70% eating. Maybe if you're trying to lose weight an get in shape but not if your trying to build muscle

[luda281]

Just because I didn't jump straight into aas doesn't mean Im some scrub that is inferior to you because you've been taking aas.

[luda281]

How to win friends and influence people, is not this .

Well when someone who doesn't know you at all comes in and calls you a retard, I'm suppose to respect that? I'm not trying to win his friendship because he has nothing to offer me.

[luda281]

Go to bodybuilding dot com look for "ttran" under bodyspace and send me a message and I'll reply to prove to you it's me. Seriously? I'm not gonna claim to be someone I'm not.


Or if you want a pic. Pm me your number and I'll take a pic of my badge with my name on it to prove I'm the same guy

Seriously, Everyone here talks like pros and know it alls then where are the results? If you guys say you're doing everything right and focus so much on diet then why are you saying I'm bigger than anyone here? I don't understand that at all

[luda281]

Go on YouTube search for username ttran1982 and you'll see my 350lb bench press at 160lbs


Look at the name on the cut and jacked site, look at the name on my bodyspace "ttran" name on YouTube "ttran1982" email that I left under the comments it's all the same

[Capebuffalo]

Just post your pick with a sign saying its luda281 on this thread and put it all to rest

[gixxerboy1]

Go on YouTube search for username ttran1982 and you'll see my 350lb bench press at 160lbs


Look at the name on the cut and jacked site, look at the name on my bodyspace "ttran" name on YouTube "ttran1982" email that I left under the comments it's all the same

your a member on alot of boards with this screen name luda281 but all the ones with your pics are a different name ttran?

[luda281]

Just post your pick with a sign saying its luda281 on this thread and put it all to rest

Won't be able to do it till this evening no access to a comp

[luda281]

your a member on alot of boards with this screen name luda281 but all the ones with your pics are a different name ttran?

Who wants to go by their name on a steroid forum? Dude don't come
In here and call me a liar. Why don't you message me
Your number and I'll take a pic of my tattoos right now at work with a. Note saying luda281 and I'll put it to rest now.


So I dont want to use my name as a user on a steroid site? Who effin does?


I know what you're thinking. How can a guy asking for help be bigger than me? Dude Idc how I look. I'm always willing to ask for help. Don't be mad because you thought I was just another out of shape kid trying to juice. I put in the work for many years

[gixxerboy1]

Who wants to go by their name on a steroid forum? Dude don't come
In here and call me a liar. Why don't you message me
Your number and I'll take a pic of my tattoos right now at work with a. Note saying luda281 and I'll put it to rest now.


So I dont want to use my name as a user on a steroid site? Who effin does?

lol, and im not giving my number to someone on a steroid forum.
i was just saying that makes it suspicious.
and by posting the other user name on here you just posted your name so there is no difference.
honestly i dont care either way. Just saying why people have doubts

[luda281]

Shot out to y'all page 2. Thank you come
Again


http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post941118803

[luda281]

lol, and im not giving my number to someone on a steroid forum.
i was just saying that makes it suspicious.
and by posting the other user name on here you just posted your name so there is no difference.
honestly i dont care either way. Just saying why people have doubts

You have doubts because you assumed because you've been doing steroids for a long time that you would be bigger than me and I'm prob some out of shape kid and that's why I'm asking for advice. Little do you know how much hard work and proper training can do. Put the heavy weight down and do some supersets. you'll look better

[Papiriqui]

I have a friend who is same height if not a bit shorter, weighing right now 200lbs, this guy can eat 10 burgers from mcdonalds, 2 chipotles, some cuban food and not gain a pound, but he is going professionally and he is eating right at the moment, and a lot as well.

The day he doesnt eat upward of 7k calories he will lose a couple lbs, yes he is using gear but he is eating like Jay Cutler.So take that into account when you say you cant eat much, its all about what you really want and how you want to go about it. To me you are choosing the easy way, thats all....

[luda281]

I have a friend who is same height if not a bit shorter, weighing right now 200lbs, this guy can eat 10 burgers from mcdonalds, 2 chipotles, some cuban food and not gain a pound, but he is going professionally and he is eating right at the moment, and a lot as well.

The day he doesnt eat upward of 7k calories he will lose a couple lbs, yes he is using gear but he is eating like Jay Cutler.So take that into account when you say you cant eat much, its all about what you really want and how you want to go about it. To me you are choosing the easy way, thats all....

In a perfect world, I'd have a perfect diet but I'd also be a pro bodybuilder. I might cut it short in the kitchen right now but nobody outworks me in the gym

[gixxerboy1]

You have doubts because you assumed because you've been doing steroids for a long time that you would be bigger than me and I'm prob some out of shape kid and that's why I'm asking for advice. Little do you know how much hard work and proper training can do. Put the heavy weight down and do some supersets. you'll look better

lol, now your telling me how to train and eat.
first i didnt always go for size, i was fighting at 185lbs
and the one pic of me at 205lbs on here is on 60mg of predisone. So that makes you bloated. If i stopped working out for a couple months im sure i could drop down to your size.

[Capebuffalo]

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Uhh...saying negative stuff? This is news to me. If it works for you ok, I just wanted to point out that for MOST people 23-25x will be too many calories. You don't think people should experiment with how many calories they take? I mean is it really wise for a 150lb guy to start eating 4k a day right away?


PPl body build to get bigger right? how are you gonna get bigger if you don't eat? Its what i go by. I'm 160lb..am i fat? Do you not realize that you are burning a good amount of these calories through out the day and during your workout?

4k is nothing. Read my entire routine, i'm not talking 4k calories of fried chicken and burgers.

btw 150 x 23 = 3450. where do you get 4k from? lol hilarious

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You said this correct?

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Originally Posted by sl4vik View Post
Uhh...saying negative stuff? This is news to me. If it works for you ok, I just wanted to point out that for MOST people 23-25x will be too many calories. You don't think people should experiment with how many calories they take? I mean is it really wise for a 150lb guy to start eating 4k a day right away?


PPl body build to get bigger right? how are you gonna get bigger if you don't eat? Its what i go by. I'm 160lb..am i fat? Do you not realize that you are burning a good amount of these calories through out the day and during your workout?

4k is nothing. Read my entire routine, i'm not talking 4k calories of fried chicken and burgers.

btw 150 x 23 = 3450. where do you get 4k from? lol hilarious

Last edited by ttran; 01-11-2010 at 08:21 PM.

You said this correct?

Yes I said that because of course it's common sense that if you eat more you will get bigger even if you don't work out. Point is in a perfect world people will have a perfect diet. But the world is not perfect. And what works for me might not work for you. I've been able to gain without that great diet. But other skinny guys can't.

[Capebuffalo]

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Lol diet is not very good. It's just genetics. I can't eat a lot. I use to be 125lbs. My body is just not use to eating 6 meals a day. I'd be lucky to get in 5 meals. But I do try to cover as much protein, carbs, and calories as possible

[Lunk1]

Ok...Luda/Ttran I appreciate the effort you made and pm'd me the pic last night. I would just like to take amoment if I may to explain what I believe is the point of view of most of these guys or at the very least my point of view.

All day everyday these kids come in here asking for advise on steroids when they have clearly not put in the work to establish a base that is worth the risk. They lie about their age, their stats, their diet. They want a magic pill that will make them look like Arnold when they currently look like Urkel. They demand answers and threaten to harm themselves by "doing it anyhow" if they don't get the answers they seek. Then when they are given sound advise from knowledgable vets such as "work out longer", "change your diet", "wait till you are old enough" and so on they get pissy and fling attitude.

I commend a number of these guys who for free (if ya don't count their $100 winnings lol) spend countless hours on this site sharing their knowledge and putting up with this behavior day in and day out. They no doubt could be doing something more for themselves than wasting their valuable time trying to save ppl from harming themselves.

With all that being said Ttran nobody is refusing to help you. They WANT to help you! As I said before if those pics and the info is you then kudos. You have definetly established a base and then some and most definetly paid your dues at the gym. I am no expert (although I did stay at a Holiday In Express) and am no pro. I am a 242.5 lbs 6ft guy who loves to work out and has a difficult time keeping a good diet, who loves to be a smart AAS on this site and help out wherever I can. Nobody here has ONCE that I have seen said they are better than you or anyone that I have seen. There are guys here who have tons of knowledge and are MORE than willing to help you. They just get lied to soooo frequently that they get some what gun shy.

My suggestion...take a breath, start over and approach things with a different outlook. You will def. catch more flies with honey than you ever will with vinager.

[Capebuffalo]

your 160lbs eating 3400 cal a day and not gaining weight. Bullshit

[luda281]

your 160lbs eating 3400 cal a day and not gaining weight. Bullshit

You do realize that thread was a long time ago right? Did you forget that I'm 9% and do 0 cardio? Your metabolism isn't like mine bro. Don't call me on bullshit.


Call me what you want. Noone has the same exact diet all year round. Don't tell me what I do doesnr work because it did work for me. Your body isn't like mine. What I can get away with you prob can't. So please dont be mad because you worry more about diet and gain less. Maybe work harder in the gym and you'll see more results.

[Capebuffalo]

Good luck You got the answer to your question on page 2. Peace

[luda281]

Ok...Luda/Ttran I appreciate the effort you made and pm'd me the pic last night. I would just like to take amoment if I may to explain what I believe is the point of view of most of these guys or at the very least my point of view.

All day everyday these kids come in here asking for advise on steroids when they have clearly not put in the work to establish a base that is worth the risk. They lie about their age, their stats, their diet. They want a magic pill that will make them look like Arnold when they currently look like Urkel. They demand answers and threaten to harm themselves by "doing it anyhow" if they don't get the answers they seek. Then when they are given sound advise from knowledgable vets such as "work out longer", "change your diet", "wait till you are old enough" and so on they get pissy and fling attitude.

I commend a number of these guys who for free (if ya don't count their $100 winnings lol) spend countless hours on this site sharing their knowledge and putting up with this behavior day in and day out. They no doubt could be doing something more for themselves than wasting their valuable time trying to save ppl from harming themselves.

With all that being said Ttran nobody is refusing to help you. They WANT to help you! As I said before if those pics and the info is you then kudos. You have definetly established a base and then some and most definetly paid your dues at the gym. I am no expert (although I did stay at a Holiday In Express) and am no pro. I am a 242.5 lbs 6ft guy who loves to work out and has a difficult time keeping a good diet, who loves to be a smart AAS on this site and help out wherever I can. Nobody here has ONCE that I have seen said they are better than you or anyone that I have seen. There are guys here who have tons of knowledge and are MORE than willing to help you. They just get lied to soooo frequently that they get some what gun shy.

My suggestion...take a breath, start over and approach things with a different outlook. You will def. catch more flies with honey than you ever will with vinager.

I appreciate the advice. I will approach it differently next time. I just felt like people assumed I was some kid trying to abuse steroids and everyone started attacking me. I think I did it the right way. I worked out for many years before I touched aas and now want to test my potential with it. I know my diet is a work in progress but I am
Working on it

[Lunk1]

I appreciate the advice. I will approach it differently next time. I just felt like people assumed I was some kid trying to abuse steroids and everyone started attacking me. I think I did it the right way. I worked out for many years before I touched aas and now want to test my potential with it. I know my diet is a work in progress but I am
Working on it

They doooo! That's my point. It is how you came off. Read some of the historical (and histerical) posts that these guys see everyday and I think you may get a better feel for WHY member felt that way. But please don't get frustrated. Stick around and become part of the community. If the you in the pics is the you on this site then you have alot to share yourself.

[luda281]

They doooo! That's my point. It is how you came off. Read some of the historical (and histerical) posts that these guys see everyday and I think you may get a better feel for WHY member felt that way. But please don't get frustrated. Stick around and become part of the community. If the you in the pics is the you on this site then you have alot to share yourself.

Yes I understand because I see it going on on every forum. I know 9 out of 10 threads is someone who is out of shape hasn't put in any work naturally, hasn't worked on a good routine, dieting..etc but want to juice. While I still
Have stuff to work on, I've done a lot on my own before aas. I feel more like an intermediate bodybuilder now.


I'll stick around I got a lot of questions over st bodybuilding dot com. Im not the biggest guy at 5'7 165 but I think people appreciate the fact that I showed smaller guys can look good too so I try to help people with what I've learned. Ya maybe I'll stick around and see how things are here.


Like I said, it's me. Click on thst link and I replied with yalls names to prove its me

[kelkel]

Lunk is correct in his assessment of peoples though processes here. Stick around Luda. You'll be good here! And what damn link to pics are we talking about?

kel

[Juced_porkchop]

6lbs kept. Really? I'm 5'7" 160ish lbs. I'm not 200+ 6lbs goes a Long way for me. Again, I'm not trying to be some big bulky guy with soft muscles. I like to gain lean muscle.

agreed its the newvbies that think you will keep gaining 15-20lb on eveyr cycle I am happ with 5-10 per cycle. but at only 160lb i do agree something is off with you. if not diet then thyroid. (im 5'7" and fairly lean)

[600@50]

I appreciate the advice. I will approach it differently next time. I just felt like people assumed I was some kid trying to abuse steroids and everyone started attacking me. I think I did it the right way. I worked out for many years before I touched aas and now want to test my potential with it. I know my diet is a work in progress but I am
Working on it

There is a big difference in testing your potential and gaining about 10 lbs like you said to begin with.

[Live for the PUMP]

No im not saying you want to be my size. But your not going to maintane 175 unless you east more.

And yes I'm happy at 200 and lean. And my wife likes juice heads

5'6" and 200lbs/lean. Brotha that is Bad Ass!!

I'm a short stocky lifter too. I love it when the tall guy tells me, "my arms are bigger because they are shorter". No D*ck, my arms are just f'n big.

[Live for the PUMP]

It is honestly becoming a part time job. Preparing the food . Packaging the food. Eating the food.

You got that right! If only I could put the dedication I put into my diet into my career! haha

[Juced_porkchop]

Lol I've already done aas and i get gains I just eat more. But thanks I'll do your diet tips

you want to look for "calori dense food" even just googling that term will help you.
and the ginger and/or tumeric pill / tea idea is a VERY good one. will give you the munchies and help with digestion. i would not take it none stop maybe few weeks on couple off or something like that. (i mean for high doses daily use, having some in your food here and there i would not worrie about having on the reg)

I dont eat meat so I am an oddball when it comes to bbing and diet but 195 13%bf and 5'7" is HUGE for me. my end goal is justr 220 but that will look MASSIVE. because i am NOT talking fat or water.
shit look up franco columbo , he was 5'6" or 5'7" and contest lbs was only around 180 and he look INSAIN (better then me by far ofcourse) so a LEAN 200 at 5'7" would look like a monster.
screw it i want to post the links to who i am talking about for the lazy's or newbies that dont think 180 is much (it can be):
LINKS:
http://www.shafatloss.com/wp-content...co-columbu.jpg
http://jansodds.com/wp-content/uploa...ncoColumbu.jpg
http://www.muscleandfitness.com/site...mages/2626.jpg
http://www.dutchbodybuilding.com/gal...olumbu_046.jpg

https://www.google.ca/search?q=franc...ed=0CAgQ_AUoAQ

[JohnnyVegas]

Shot out to y'all page 2. Thank you come
Again


http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post941118803

Heh. That is funny.