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    CLEN not Working like thought

    okay new to this...but first time given Clen to rats and not getting results as thought...

    First day 40...
    second day...60 morning then 20 around 2pm...
    3rd day...100....notice a little but nothing great felling...

    What is maximum dosage for Clen....

    Also....have been taking stims for awhile and tolerance could be high or do you think my beta-receptors are clogged????

    should i start keto after only being on clen for 3 days????

    What is maximum dosage????

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    i wouldnt go over 120mcg?
    what are you expecting to feel? Side effects arent a measure if its working.
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Check your body temp to see if it is working. Also your heart rate will increase.


    You should know how to take something before you start it. Clen is strong stuff.

    Keto is only needed if you run longer then 2wks straight.

    120mcg's is a good stopping point on clen.

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    and for me the shakes start kicking in............

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    Is it liquid ?? did u get it from ar? I have some from another place and I have found it only to be beneficial(the way I want) at 200mcg......this is not my recommendation to you because im a freak.

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    Is it liquid ?? Yes Liquid AR!!!! Yes Ironbeck


    You should know how to take something before you start it. Clen is strong stuff. I did T_DOG

    Read alot of post on how to take and no recommended doages is

    day 1..20
    day 2..20
    day 3..40
    day 4..40 and so on.....I know keto is used after the 2 week period but that wasnt my question...you also take taurine daily 3-5g and potasium....
    Blaa Blaaa Blaaa..Also it is suggested to go off how you feel when taking clen ...when heart beat feels aleivated, sweating, and hands shaking then one should stop increasing...I dont have this except at the 100 today and a very little......

    Question was i use alot of stems and does anyone think the my beta-receptors are clogged???? this is for the reason why i am not feeling affects from clen....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny141 View Post
    Is it liquid ?? Yes Liquid AR!!!! Yes Ironbeck


    You should know how to take something before you start it. Clen is strong stuff. I did T_DOG

    Read alot of post on how to take and no recommended doages is

    day 1..20
    day 2..20
    day 3..40
    day 4..40 and so on.....I know keto is used after the 2 week period but that wasnt my question...you also take taurine daily 3-5g and potasium....
    Blaa Blaaa Blaaa..Also it is suggested to go off how you feel when taking clen ...when heart beat feels aleivated, sweating, and hands shaking then one should stop increasing...I dont have this except at the 100 today and a very little......

    Question was i use alot of stems and does anyone think the my beta-receptors are clogged???? this is for the reason why i am not feeling affects from clen....


    Sides can very. You need to see if your body temp has increased.

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    sides arent a good thing to go by. you should go by your body temp
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    OK, Thanks everyone...what is a range that is acceptable????? and what is a body temp i would not want to go over?

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    Mine goes up half a degree. Some people more.

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    If u use stims u could be slightly blockin the actions of clen . i would choose between the 2.

    Check ur BP when ur on clen and then again when off.. it should be lower while on clen. Also HR should go up while on clen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonada8 View Post
    If u use stims u could be slightly blockin the actions of clen . i would choose between the 2.

    Check ur BP when ur on clen and then again when off.. it should be lower while on clen. Also HR should go up while on clen.
    Huh? Blood pressure will increase on Clen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    Huh? Blood pressure will increase on Clen.
    The vessels with dilate creating a lower afterload on the heart, lowering BP. Thats why HR goes up while on clen . U maintian cardiac output.
    CO = Stroke volume X HR.

    With vasodilation, you decrease afterload ( aka pressure required to force blood throughout the body), so the drop in pressure required is the lowered blood pressure, which in turn increases HR due to the body tryin to keep CO constant. The body sees the drop as loss of perfusion, so it increases HR.

    u can also look at it as, more blood is being held in the vessels and less is being pumped with each beat of the heart. BP is the pressure required to move blood in the body with ( systolic = the pressure exerted by the ventricles during a contraction.. Diastolic = the pressure exerted by the volume of blood in the vessels)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonada8 View Post
    The vessels with dilate creating a lower afterload on the heart, lowering BP. Thats why HR goes up while on clen . U maintian cardiac output.
    CO = Stroke volume X HR.

    With vasodilation, you decrease afterload ( aka pressure required to force blood throughout the body), so the drop in pressure required is the lowered blood pressure, which in turn increases HR due to the body tryin to keep CO constant. The body sees the drop as loss of perfusion, so it increases HR.

    u can also look at it as, more blood is being held in the vessels and less is being pumped with each beat of the heart. BP is the pressure required to move blood in the body with ( systolic = the pressure exerted by the ventricles during a contraction.. Diastolic = the pressure exerted by the volume of blood in the vessels)
    While Beta 2 stimulation dilates arteries to some degree, real life will show you that the increase in cardiac output from the Beta-1 stimulation (which all "selective B2 agonists" also cause) more than makes up for it, increasing BP above baseline.
    What you're describing is a pure compensatory response like you would see if you took too much viagra. But with Clen you are also directly increasing HR and contractile strength, not just causing a compensatory response to hypovolemia.
    Last edited by Bonaparte; 09-02-2012 at 05:41 PM.

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    Speaking first hand here. Blood pressure will increase. A very simple way to know this was that I sneezed a few times on clen , the pressure was pretty intense. I know, I know bro science but yeah.... It will increase.

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