Other steroid than test

**super.muscle3** · 09-09-2012, 03:37 AM

Is there any other steroid than test that gives massive mass gains with no water retention? The problem is that if I take test I'll look fat

**panntastic** · 09-09-2012, 04:00 AM

Originally Posted by super.muscle3

Is there any other steroid than test that gives massive mass gains with no water retention? The problem is that if I take test I'll look fat

Is this by experience?
Have you tried test prop?

Test is used every cycle as its base.
so no matter what Cycle you do you have test there and generally add to that over a long time with other compounds.

What are your stats?

**stocky121** · 09-09-2012, 04:28 AM

how about test with an ai. also diet and the amount of water you drink will factor into it

**fit2bOld** · 09-09-2012, 07:03 AM

Definitely diet related issue...

**songdog** · 09-09-2012, 07:14 AM

I agree diet and ai bro.

**45Steven** · 09-09-2012, 07:37 AM

yes diet is real important! always

**JWP806** · 09-09-2012, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by super.muscle3

Is there any other steroid than test that gives massive mass gains with no water retention? The problem is that if I take test I'll look fat

So cut down to a weight where you can afford to gain some water weight before cycling. Also, use an AI. I assume this would be your first cycle?

**MR-FQ320** · 09-09-2012, 09:52 AM

what BF% are you to begin with ?

**austinite** · 09-09-2012, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by stocky121

how about test with an ai. also diet and the amount of water you drink will factor into it

there you go.

**super.muscle3** · 09-09-2012, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

there you go.

What's an ai? I'm saying by experience where on my first cycle only on test i gained lots of fat.

About water should I drink plenties of water during the cycle? Before the cycle? I didn't understand

**austinite** · 09-09-2012, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by super.muscle3

What's an ai? I'm saying by experience where on my first cycle only on test i gained lots of fat.

About water should I drink plenties of water during the cycle? Before the cycle? I didn't understand

Aromitaze inhibitor. It's mainly used to lower estrogen level that become elevated on cycle.

Yes, you need lots of water. over a gallon daily at minimum. Water is needed regardless of cycling. Get used to drinking water everyday. On or Off cycle. It's especially crucial on cycle, however.

If you gained lots of fat, then you need to fix your diet. You can do this by posting your current diet in the nutrition section for critique. the pros there will help you adjust it so that you can maximize lean gains and minimize fat.

**Bio-Active** · 09-09-2012, 11:47 AM

I think maybe hitting up the diet forum and putting up your macros. Those gurus over there will get you dialed in bro

Originally Posted by super.muscle3

Is there any other steroid than test that gives massive mass gains with no water retention? The problem is that if I take test I'll look fat

**warmouth** · 09-09-2012, 12:12 PM

Test is part of any correct cycle regarless. If you got fat, you got work to do! Good Luck!

**super.muscle3** · 09-10-2012, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Aromitaze inhibitor. It's mainly used to lower estrogen level that become elevated on cycle.

Yes, you need lots of water. over a gallon daily at minimum. Water is needed regardless of cycling. Get used to drinking water everyday. On or Off cycle. It's especially crucial on cycle, however.

If you gained lots of fat, then you need to fix your diet. You can do this by posting your current diet in the nutrition section for critique. the pros there will help you adjust it so that you can maximize lean gains and minimize fat.

By what I researched http://www.drkatharina.com/dangers-o...-estrogen-men/
I think I'm going to try it. Thanks

**austinite** · 09-10-2012, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by super.muscle3

By what I researched http://www.drkatharina.com/dangers-o...-estrogen-men/
I think I'm going to try it. Thanks

Yes, try it when you're ready. You're not ready right now for sure.

**super.muscle3** · 09-10-2012, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Aromitaze inhibitor. It's mainly used to lower estrogen level that become elevated on cycle.

Yes, you need lots of water. over a gallon daily at minimum. Water is needed regardless of cycling. Get used to drinking water everyday. On or Off cycle. It's especially crucial on cycle, however.

If you gained lots of fat, then you need to fix your diet. You can do this by posting your current diet in the nutrition section for critique. the pros there will help you adjust it so that you can maximize lean gains and minimize fat.

I've choosed nolvadex and I'll be taking 500mg of test ethanate a week and 50mg per day of oxymetholne to kickstart. Just don't know what dose of nolvadex to take. In my researchs I hear many different doses.

**austinite** · 09-10-2012, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by super.muscle3

I've choosed nolvadex and I'll be taking 500mg of test ethanate a week and 50mg per day of oxymetholne to kickstart. Just don't know what dose of nolvadex to take. In my researchs I hear many different doses.

You dont need abombs on your 1st cycle.

I hope you're listening.

**warmouth** · 09-10-2012, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Yes, try it when you're ready. You're not ready right now for sure.

lol. I love his next post. You went right through his ears/eyes.

**super.muscle3** · 09-10-2012, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

You dont need abombs on your 1st cycle.

I hope you're listening.

It's my third cycle. What are abombs? By my research found that I also should take clomid to prevent the excess estrogen. Is that true? Even if it is only to keep my libido up can I take it during the cycle?

**austinite** · 09-10-2012, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by super.muscle3

It's my third cycle. What are abombs? By my research found that I also should take clomid to prevent the excess estrogen. Is that true? Even if it is only to keep my libido up can I take it during the cycle?

3rd cycle and you dont know what an AI is? You dont know how to PCT?

Abombs are Anadrol , which is your oxymetholne.

You are no where near ready to cycle, regardless of your cycle history.

**MuscleInk** · 09-10-2012, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

3rd cycle and you dont know what an AI is? You dont know how to PCT?

Abombs are Anadrol , which is your oxymetholne.

You are no where near ready to cycle, regardless of your cycle history.

I agree with Austinite. You are nowhere ready for any of this. Your lack of knowledge will be a danger to you. Previous cycles or not, you have much more careful research to do.

**snowman** · 09-10-2012, 04:20 PM

OMG...you haven't done much research for someone that has done 2cycles.

**super.muscle3** · 09-11-2012, 05:16 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

3rd cycle and you dont know what an AI is? You dont know how to PCT?

Abombs are Anadrol , which is your oxymetholne.

You are no where near ready to cycle, regardless of your cycle history.

The first thing I bought on my first cycle was nolvadex do prevent Gynecomastia . I got many of my knowledge from my buddies.

I just don't understand your english acronyms because we use others in my country.

Just don't think because people have few posts it means they are noobs.