Tren/epi cycle NOTICABLE GAINS, STRENGTH, HARDNESS in 2nd week!!!

**bodybuilder87** · 09-19-2012, 08:02 AM

I'm currently in my second week of tren /epi. From what I understsnd most tren cycles see results on the 3rd pr 4th week. This is my first tren/epi cycle although I ran other cycles before. I'm guessing maybe my body responds to tren better. My strength has increased, size, hardness, vascularity. I feel like a God in the gym. It will be two weeks this Saturday . So far side effects are night terrors, back pumps and really strong aggression. Has anyone else seen these results from tren so fast?

My stats

25
5.11' (close to 6')
202lbs ( now 210lbs)
Bf 11% ( now.10%)

Trenazone dosage
150/150/150/150/150/150

Havoc/epi dosage
40/40/50/50/60/60

Pct

Ad-3 pct
Clomid @ 50/50/25/25

Support supps;
Cel cycle support
Infiniti lab joint support
P5p
Pure test
Superior Amino
Green tea extract
L carnitine
L arginine
Cla
Zma

Daily macros is 40/40/20. 3500-4000 calories

Train 7 days a week on 4 day roations. Roughly 1 1/2 - 2 hes. NO CARDIO. I do 30mins of olympic style training which elevates my heart rate faster than cardio.

**marcus300** · 09-19-2012, 08:08 AM

You have been told many times in your previous threads to not run a tren only cycle ever, let alone for your 2 nd cycle.

Stop the cycle and do an aggressive pct

**austinite** · 09-19-2012, 08:10 AM

Yes, I remember this. Stopping is in your best interest.

**Capebuffalo** · 09-19-2012, 08:12 AM

Enjoy while you can.

What a waste

Do you have insurance? Man I hope so you are going to need it.

**bodybuilder87** · 09-19-2012, 08:20 AM

So much.negativity. I stopped the tren only and decided to run it with epi. So what's the problem.? I know people had great results with tren alone and also epi. Have any of you ever ran tren or know about it or you just run test and dbol or deca ???.

**marcus300** · 09-19-2012, 08:24 AM

You clearly have no idea what your doing

You shouldnt be on a tren only cycle weather its with epi or not, makes no difference infact it makes it worse,

You also should be even using tren on your 2nd cycle, thats if you knew how to use it correctly.

Stop the cycle and do an aggressive pct

**austinite** · 09-19-2012, 08:26 AM

No one is attempting to be negative. Simply advising you to take the safe route.

**bodybuilder87** · 09-19-2012, 08:30 AM

Ok so explain to me the reason not to do a tren /epi cycle and the proof to back up why its not a good idea? And yesterday I've done plenty of research on tren and.its capablities even when.combined with other.compounds inclufing test, epi etc..

**Juced_porkchop** · 09-19-2012, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

You have been told many times in your previous threads to not run a tren only cycle ever, let alone for your 2 nd cycle.

Stop the cycle and do an aggressive pct

Some are so blind and hard headed and live through ignorance their whole lives defending what they want to believe.
some wake up, others dont.

This guy is prob the type not worth giving input to because hes already gott o this point with people telling him its a bad idea.

and to thread starter. you are wrong on somany levels and risking your health,mood and massive side effects by going down the road you are.
dont want to pin THEN TEST A TEST MASE IN A CREAM! no excuses!
no cycle should be dont without a test base, even just hrt amounts, and oral only cycles are shit and tren without test is one of the stupidest things you can do in the aas world and specially if you are new to it.... man i can go on and on...

but you stay in lala land......

**Juced_porkchop** · 09-19-2012, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by bodybuilder87

Ok so explain to me the reason not to do a tren/epi cycle and the proof to back up why its not a good idea? And yesterday I've done plenty of research on tren and.its capablities even when.combined with other.compounds inclufing test, epi etc..

If you dont know and cant find out then maybe aas is not for you....

**bodybuilder87** · 09-19-2012, 08:39 AM

Ok again what are the reasons??? Since your the tren expert. If I'm here posting its because I want input.not someone telling me tgats a stupid cycle and I shoukd stop. Explain to me. Give me reasons.

**Capebuffalo** · 09-19-2012, 08:41 AM

I'm sure you have read this:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...!#.UFnZV1Gd6So

**marcus300** · 09-19-2012, 08:43 AM

Someone with one cycle under his belt and the experience you have shouldn't run a tren only cycle for his 2nd cycle. Its an advance compound with serious sides, you don't need it and have no idea what it can do to you.

You haven't done any research because if you did you would of found out you should run test with tren and not some pro hormone rubbish what will complicate things even more.

You have been told that many times on various threads you have started why isn't it going in? even though you may think you know better you don't. All because you haven't got the answer you wanted you call us negative when we only are trying to keep you safe and healthy. I can see I am wasting my time and effort posting in your thread.

You will learn the hard way, best of luck you'll need it

**bodybuilder87** · 09-19-2012, 09:37 AM

I completely understsnd what your talking about. But, this compund trenazone (clone of tren ) works differently and us not as harsh on your body as let's say tren ace.

Read this article. It explains trenazone

http://tunedsports.com/designer-ster...enazone-bible/

**bodybuilder87** · 09-19-2012, 09:38 AM

I completely understsnd what your talking about. But, this compund trenazone (clone of tren ) works differently and us not as harsh on your body as let's say tren ace.

Read this article. It explains trenazone

http://tunedsports.com/designer-ster...enazone-bible/

**Atomini** · 09-19-2012, 10:08 AM

Hah... funny...

**gearbox** · 09-19-2012, 10:13 AM

I am always confused on where to begin and end with guys like this.

Op-you have been advised by more then one member on what to do. The choice is yours!

**bodybuilder87** · 09-19-2012, 10:21 AM

Its funny how everyone on here never used trenazone, have no experience with it but still manage to comment. Simple if you don't know the compound don't comment. I've gotten responses from other forums from people who know this product and done this cycle with advice and help. And of course I'm sure you didn't read it gearbox

**austinite** · 09-19-2012, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by bodybuilder87

Its funny how everyone on here never used trenazone, have no experience with it but still manage to comment. Simple if you don't know the compound don't comment. I've gotten responses from other forums from people who know this product and done this cycle with advice and help. And of course I'm sure you didn't read it gearbox

Maybe you should read the compound profile again. It's junk.