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    Intermediate cycle #2

    Hi there just wandering why the intermediate cycle #2 cut cylce with tren and test prob why this cycle shouldn't be used as your first cycle and what you think will happen if I do.

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    stick with test for 1st cycle

    and you will want to make your 1st cycle a bulk

    what are your stats?

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    What are your stats?
    How long have you been training for?
    What kind of diet are you running?

    There is no need to use a powerful compound like Tren on your first cycle, its an advanced compound which can have some serious side effects so IMHO stick with test only and see how you respond remember diet is crucial and an intense training protocol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by branzilla View Post
    Hi there just wandering why the intermediate cycle #2 cut cylce with tren and test prob why this cycle shouldn't be used as your first cycle and what you think will happen if I do.
    Nothing will happen if you use it in your first cycle that would or wouldn't happen in your 2nd, 3rd or 4th cycle. Your body won't react poorly or positively to tren just because you have or haven't used it before. The reason people often say it's not a good idea to use tren in a first cycle is that first timers often don't know how to control side effects overall. Plus, you can get a lot out of just some test and possibly a little anavar or dbol ...not that you have to have anavar or dbol in there but I don't see any problem with using those in a first cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kronik420 View Post
    stick with test for 1st cycle

    and you will want to make your 1st cycle a bulk

    what are your stats?
    If a guy's been training well for awhile and has never used gear and wants to diet and get as lean and hard as possible, I see no reason why his first cycle can't be when dieting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalject View Post
    If a guy's been training well for awhile and has never used gear and wants to diet and get as lean and hard as possible, I see no reason why his first cycle can't be when dieting.
    Agreed with a little knowledge the addition of AAs to cutting and dieting is very benificial!

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    Quote Originally Posted by branzilla View Post
    Hi there just wandering why the intermediate cycle #2 cut cylce with tren and test prob why this cycle shouldn't be used as your first cycle and what you think will happen if I do.
    You do not want to stack for a 1st cycle. You need to understand how you will react to test alone as it will be your base for all future stacks. If you stack multiple compounds right off the bat, you will have a really hard time identifying the culprit of sides. For example, if you decided to eat 3 exotic foods in one sitting, and you get sick, you will not know which dish caused the illness.

    Once you know how you handle test alone, preferably a couple runs with it, you can start stacking. And I would personally wait on the tren even longer, for reasons marcus mentioned. Plenty of time to cycle and experiment, no need to rush anything.

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    If you've done test only a a first cycle and reached goals you set out to achieve on test alone why not do just test again and again and again until you come to let's say a sticking point using 500mg test a week then opt for adding other compounds.
    Just no sense running before you can walk

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalject View Post
    nothing will happen if you use it in your first cycle that would or wouldn't happen in your 2nd, 3rd or 4th cycle. Your body won't react poorly or positively to tren just because you have or haven't used it before. The reason people often say it's not a good idea to use tren in a first cycle is that first timers often don't know how to control side effects overall. Plus, you can get a lot out of just some test and possibly a little anavar or dbol...not that you have to have anavar or dbol in there but i don't see any problem with using those in a first cycle.
    x2..

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