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    Question Trenbolone Parabolan In My Cycle

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    14st 5lbs

    5ft 10"

    I've done a few cycles been training around 10 years, just started a cycle.

    Week 1-16
    Test Cyp
    400mg Week

    Week 1-12
    Tren Parabolan
    76mg EOD (266mg Week)

    Week 1-14
    Mast Drostanolone
    100mg EOD (600mg Week)

    PCT READY TO GO

    What do you think on the dosages? Test maybe a bit low but don't want to broad to much off the Cyp.

    Thanks

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    How much do you weigh?
    What is your body fat percentage?
    What is your plan for an AI on cycle?
    What is your PCT protocol exactly?
    Amy plans for HCG ?

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    14st 5lbs

    I'm running mast as an anti estrogen blocker. I don't suffer from gyno.

    I'd say around 12%

    Nolvadex , clomid, also got proviron to hand. Have thought about hcg .

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    15 stone + 5 pounds = 201 pounds.

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    Ok. I'm not getting detailed responses here...

    Unless you're getting mast with an enanthate ester, I wouldn't run it for that long. I would run test for 12 weeks, tren for 12 weeks, and mast for the last 8 weeks. Dosages look fine.

    It is very arguable that Mast can or should be be used as an AI, while it does have anti estrogenic properties, my blood work on mast proved it would not suffice. Everyone is different, however.

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    Thanks shsm.

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    I'm going to run the test slightly longer then the Tren . If I don't feel much blood I might run the test Cyp at 600mg.

    I ran test and Tren before I started to have sore nipples slightly, the only time i added some mast to the cycle and all fine then. Last time I ran a pretty similar cycle my free floating test was around 950. My shbg levels were 0! How can I combat this? Raise my shbg and put that free floating test to good use.

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    14st 5lbs is 203 lbs

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    How much does a stone weigh anyway?

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    14 lbs to a stone
    1 stone is 6.350 kg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinjg View Post
    14st 5lbs is 203 lbs
    Are you sure?

    1 stone = 6.35 kg = 13.9994 pounds

    13.9994 * 14 = 195.9916

    195.9916 + 5 = 200.9916 (201)
    Last edited by Shsm; 10-17-2012 at 04:23 PM.

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    So I'm also 92kg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinjg View Post
    I'm going to run the test slightly longer then the Tren . If I don't feel much blood I might run the test Cyp at 600mg.

    I ran test and Tren before I started to have sore nipples slightly, the only time i added some mast to the cycle and all fine then. Last time I ran a pretty similar cycle my free floating test was around 950. My shbg levels were 0! How can I combat this? Raise my shbg and put that free floating test to good use.

    Thanks
    I don't know of any way to fix low shbg levels. This is probably why your free test is high.

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    14 st 5lbs

    14 x 14 = 196 + 5 = 201

    I used this website as mt convertor http://www.calculateme.com/Weight/Stones/ToPounds.htm

    Dam thing was wrong! Calculators never fail lol

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    Proviron also binds very well to SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin& a hormone responsible for reducing the amount of circulating free testosterone in your body)

    How would this help?

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    Are you taking any DHEA or Pregnenolone ?

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    Nope

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    Thyroid hormone is one of several factors that modulate the level of sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) in serum. SHBG levels are usually elevated in thyrotoxicosis and have been reported to be normal in a few patients with generalized resistance to thyroid hormone (GRTH). This study was designed to determine whether basal serum SHBG levels or the SHBG response to short term T3 administration could be used as an index of thyroid hormone action and thus serve as a test for the evaluation of patients suspected of having peripheral tissue resistance to thyroid hormone. Serum SHBG, total T4, free T4 index (FT4I), total T3, and TSH levels were measured in 21 normal subjects, 28 hypothyroid patients, 20 thyrotoxic patients, and 10 patients with GRTH. Excluding patients with GRTH, serum basal SHBG values were correlated with FT4I values (r = 0.66; P less than 0.0001). Mean SHBG levels in the patients with GRTH [37.6 +/- 16.2 (+/- SD) nmol/L] were not significantly different from those in the normal subjects (35.1 +/- 19.3 nmol/L) or hypothyroid patients (26.3 +/- 17.1 nmol/L), but were significantly lower than those in the thyrotoxic group (64.7 +/- 19.2 nmol/L; P less than 0.001). All 10 patients with GRTH had basal SHBG values in the normal range, but 7 of 20 (35%) thyrotoxic patients also had normal basal SHBG values. T3 was given orally for three sequential 3-day periods at doses of 50, 100, and 200 micrograms daily to 7 normal subjects, 11 hypothyroid and 3 thyrotoxic patients, and all 10 patients with GRTH. The serum SHBG concentration was measured on the last day at each dosage level. During T3 administration, SHBG levels increased in all individuals with normal tissue responsiveness

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    then start. Use DHEA (micronized) @ 50mg ed, and pregnenolone @ 100mg daily.

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    Would this be any good if I'm taking steroids anyway.

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    Please reference articles. See if kelkel can get in here, Ill be back.

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    I will do some research what benefits would this have? Will it help low shbg or help with the floating test? Or both? Any negative effects

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    Thanks for the info I'll have more of a read 2moz morning.

    Thanks,

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    You didn't post your estrogen! SHBG binds to estrogen as well.

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