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    large lump after inject

    This pass Sunday night I took my first shot of my cycle.It was Test e 300mg in right glute.It was little sore at first but always got that way on other cycles of test e.The site isnt red or hot but its not round lump but probly about 5in wide by inch thick,like a stripe.Is it infection or a knot in muscle.I just started taken anti inflammitory and ice it couple times a day.Ive also kickstarted with dbol sunday also.I stopped today because couldnt stand the sides,lethargy .I also got small fever 99.4 but I take ibupofin & goes down quick .Any help is appeciated.

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    Sounds like subq inject. What did you use for a needle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff52069
    This pass Sunday night I took my first shot of my cycle.It was Test e 300mg in right glute.It was little sore at first but always got that way on other cycles of test e.The site isnt red or hot but its not round lump but probly about 5in wide by inch thick,like a stripe.Is it infection or a knot in muscle.I just started taken anti inflammitory and ice it couple times a day.Ive also kickstarted with dbol sunday also.I stopped today because couldnt stand the sides,lethargy .I also got small fever 99.4 but I take ibupofin & goes down quick .Any help is appeciated.
    Who recommended ice????? You could crystallize the gear in the fascia!

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    try heat not ice! Even subQ should have dispersed by now shouldnt it Mick?...never injected test subQ!

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    Not necessarily. Some vets still get lumps using .25ml

    You can inject test either way, subq or IM, juts not as much as you would IM in one shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox
    Not necessarily. Some vets still get lumps using .25ml

    You can inject test either way, subq or IM, juts not as much as you would IM in one shot.
    Depending on volume, sQ lumps could persist for a week. SQ often produces localized bruising as well.

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    I used 23gauge 1 1/2 inch to draw&inject

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    Not necessarily. Some vets still get lumps using .25ml

    You can inject test either way, subq or IM, juts not as much as you would IM in one shot.
    Thanks Capt obvious. I know you CAN iject both ways lol. Just wondered what the dispersment time was IM vs SubQ. Same???

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    I did im injection

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff52069 View Post
    I did im injection
    Apply a heating pad to the area. Has it gone down at all or stayed the same size??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Thanks Capt obvious. I know you CAN iject both ways lol. Just wondered what the dispersment time was IM vs SubQ. Same???
    Haha that's my fault. I didn't notice the "ed" on the word inject.

    Not sure of dispersment times. But the lumps can take a week or more as Ink has said. My friend (really) is experiencing this right now. Two large lumps from both subq shots @ .5ml each - been over a wk now.

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    Just start it heating it today I don't know if it's a fever or just how you get flushed
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    I also forgot to add that i get nausa through out the that & the small fevers i get worry me that its might be an infection.But lump isnt red or hot.Maybe the nausa from the dbol ,at least thats what i thought so i stoppped the dbol.If is infection how do u explain u are using steroids without perscription.

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    Don't stress too much about it. Non infected lumps can be a result of various things. SubQ shots, bad injection protocol, virgin muscle, the gear (not bad just how it's manufactured), scar tissue build up on the site... Start worrying if it bears a finger print to the touch and gets soft and inflamed in a fleshy NOT muscular way.

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    The fever like symptoms can be a result of test flu, yes some people will say Enanthate ester so you won't notice such symptoms till X day... But from my circles the symptoms can be immediate negligent of the ester. The Dbol could also be to blame, maybe blood pressure, tabs on an empty stomach? Check it out! But you've stopped so all variables cancelled except infection so you will see shortly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff52069
    Just start it heating it today I don't know if it's a fever or just how you get flushed
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    Most lumps will start to disappear in 3-5 days. Any longer could indicate the injection was performed incorrectly (sQ or adipose) or an infection has occurred. Most infections will take 7-10 days to become symptomatic (hard red swelling at injection site; pain; fever; nausea; loss of appetite; somnolence; dizziness, etc.)

    When you performed the injection, was it at the top of lateral (side) of your butt or towards the middle or bottom in the "meaty" section? First timers often incorrectly inject in the thicker "meaty" part of the buttocks where most of the fat is stored.
    Last edited by MuscleInk; 10-24-2012 at 03:44 PM.

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    Keep the area on a heat cycle to work the oil in the area and speed recovery. Don't take the oral anti inflams if you don't have to, not great on the insides coupled with the Dbol on that, get some cream
    For the Doc you gotta shoot straight, use someone approachable, let them twist your ear but be honest and let them sort you out! But don't worry from what I can see I doubt infection (you never know they take a while to form sometimes).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmgearworks
    Keep the area on a heat cycle to work the oil in the area and speed recovery. Don't take the oral anti inflams if you don't have to, not great on the insides coupled with the Dbol on that, get some cream
    For the Doc you gotta shoot straight, use someone approachable, let them twist your ear but be honest and let them sort you out! But don't worry from what I can see I doubt infection (you never know they take a while to form sometimes).
    I understand the "honesty is best policy" assumption, but in the case of illegal substances, I'd personally recommend you avoid that conversation unless absolutely needed. An admission of use means it will be documented in your medical history forever and that can open a number of problems for you. Obviously your health is essential, but think long and hard before admitting to illegal practices that will be documented in a permanent medical file that can have personal and insurability implications!

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    I inject it the top part of the glute. Thanks for all your support and help I will keep you updated

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    Gotta have a good approachable Doc if you gonna dabble in these goodies. Just my opinion but yes a very sensitive issue. Cannot be diagnosed accurately without the truth.
    Hoping in the upper outer quadrant of your Glute?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmgearworks
    Gotta have a good approachable Doc if you gonna dabble in these goodies. Just my opinion but yes a very sensitive issue. Cannot be diagnosed accurately without the truth.
    Hoping in the upper outer quadrant of your Glute?
    Very true, but I suspect the majority of users don't have a physicians consent. Lol
    I suppose one could claim its for TRT but a doc would still ask follow-up questions (e.g where's the clinic; who's following the therapy; how much/dosing; route of admin; etc)

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    Yea iam sure a ton of them don't but it should be a noted necessity before jumping on a cycle! As important as any other newbie factor. No arrogance but myself and iam sure many other members will run circles around general docs in terms of steroid knowledge and usage etc, as they didn't study for our use and we did + half the shit we use isn't for intended use. That being said when crunch time comes on diagnostics and sides beyond our self diagnosing reach they are the only ones in our corner that can help and they need facts in order to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmgearworks
    Yea iam sure a ton of them don't but it should be a noted necessity before jumping on a cycle! As important as any other newbie factor. No arrogance but myself and iam sure many other members will run circles around general docs in terms of steroid knowledge and usage etc, as they didn't study for our use and we did + half the shit we use isn't for intended use. That being said when crunch time comes on diagnostics and sides beyond our self diagnosing reach they are the only ones in our corner that can help and they need facts in order to do so.
    I agree, and as a physician I also concur the majority of MDs are ignorant about AAS. Among some of my endocrinology peers, I am often taken back by how little they know beyond basic endocrinology. Mention terms like primobolan , trenbolone , or Sustanon and many of then will look at you like you are from a distant planet! Lol

    Unfortunately, it is hard to find docs that are supportive to this. Most will simply follow the traditionally espoused dogma that steroids are bad and dangerous. My own business partner, a physician of 25 years, knows of my current protocols and does not condone any of them despite a visible improvement in health. Traditional beliefs are often hard to circumnavigate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmgearworks View Post
    Yea iam sure a ton of them don't but it should be a noted necessity before jumping on a cycle! As important as any other newbie factor. No arrogance but myself and iam sure many other members will run circles around general docs in terms of steroid knowledge and usage etc, as they didn't study for our use and we did + half the shit we use isn't for intended use. That being said when crunch time comes on diagnostics and sides beyond our self diagnosing reach they are the only ones in our corner that can help and they need facts in order to do so.
    Yeah...damn doc's are just dumb and most are pathological liars

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    Yeah...damn doc's are just dumb and most are pathological liars
    Behave yourself or I'm sending the hungry black panther to your humble abode!

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    Dr MuscleInk

    Very true and the backward nature and ****ing sheep drone that deafens my ears on a daily basis that "steroids are bad mmmkay" is the reason for all this illegality bullshit and lack of approachable docs... The system just keeps feeding ignorance in this same cycle of zero education + science and piles of negativity but that's another story and hopefully we can fight it in due course!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Yeah...damn doc's are just dumb and most are pathological liars
    It outrageous isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Behave yourself or I'm sending the hungry black panther to your humble abode!
    controlled breathing, steady trigger press....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

    It outrageous isn't it?
    Lunk I could understand. He's just bitter that I won't send him "the good stuff". Big baby!

    ....but Mickey!?! My brother from our Northern Mother!!! How COULD you!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Lunk I could understand. He's just bitter that I won't send him "the good stuff". Big baby!

    ....but Mickey!?! My brother from our Northern Mother!!! How COULD you!!!!!
    By good stuff you must be refering to pics of the HAW???

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    @ Ink, Haha just kidding bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmgearworks
    Dr MuscleInk

    Very true and the backward nature and ****ing sheep drone that deafens my ears on a daily basis that "steroids are bad mmmkay" is the reason for all this illegality bullshit and lack of approachable docs... The system just keeps feeding ignorance in this same cycle of zero education + science and piles of negativity but that's another story and hopefully we can fight it in due course!
    I'm with you there 100%. It well past the time for the pendulum to swing the other way and medical professionals to realize the utility of these compounds, including GH! A few of my peers use GH off label in older (60+) populations and have seen numerous benefits. Hopefully this is the beginning of change....albeit slow and protracted.

    I'm depending on our future specialists like Atomini (from our forum) to spearhead the needed changes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    controlled breathing, steady trigger press....
    Bring the night vision goggles. He's a stealthy predictor. Fortunately I've trained him to slay males, so Mrs. Lunk will be just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    By good stuff you must be refering to pics of the HAW???
    Those, and the other unmentionables!

    I hope OP got the answer he needed cuz this thread has gone way off topic!!!! Lol

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    I know it's best not to tell a doc you use AAS. But I didn't know that 20 years ago so my endo wrote down my adrol use in my file. Well several jobs and insurance companies later absolutely nothing has ever been said by any new doc or insurance company. Maybe just lucky. My 2¢.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 600@50
    I know it's best not to tell a doc you use AAS. But I didn't know that 20 years ago so my endo wrote down my adrol use in my file. Well several jobs and insurance companies later absolutely nothing has ever been said by any new doc or insurance company. Maybe just lucky. My 2¢.
    That is fortunate!

    I was upgrading an insurance policy three months ago and was declined because of documented steroid use in my file - which is actually TRT!!!!!! Ridiculous how something as benign as 150mg of cypionate weekly for low T gets you immediately black listed by ignorant insurance auditors!!!!

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    I had just thought of something on Sunday I took my shot But on Tuesday i fell on my but at work and that could at work and that could be the cause of the lump. Because it's not round but it's too wide to be caused by the pinning. So I think the fall I took is the cause of the lump
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    Is it possiable that after the injection on sunday that area had a little trauma from stick and the impact from the fall on my bum caused more damage to area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff52069 View Post
    Is it possiable that after the injection on sunday that area had a little trauma from stick and the impact from the fall on my bum caused more damage to area?
    Has there been any change since the post you made ?

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    No change in size but it hurts more. Just started taking the naproxen today

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