2nd Cycle adding another compound?

[Brick]

First cycle

Anadrol week 1: 50mg/ed
week 2-4: 100mg/ed
Sus400 week 1-2: 400mg week
week 3-12: 600mg week

Standard pct: nolva and clomid

Great results.


2nd cycle planned.
Week 1-12: test E: 500mg week
HCG
Standard pct

Question is should I add another compound? I am looking to stay away from Tren (for now) so don't suggest that. If just test is recommended then that's what I will roll with. Thanks!

[Lunk1]

I would love to kick tht with some Tbol to begin.

[Brick]

I would love to kick tht with some Tbol to begin.

About to have a nap. Will read about Tbol after

[mmgearworks]

Can keep it as is if that's what you were going for. If you planning on throwing another item in there you gotta have reasoning and desired effect don't do it for the sake of it... So what addition do you want up from a straight test cycle is a better approach!

[MickeyKnox]

I would love to kick tht with some Tbol to begin.

..or Var at the end.

[t-dogg]

why are you bumping the sust up instead of running the same dose?

[Lunk1]

..or Var at the end.

Or both....lol

[Lunk1]

why are you bumping the sust up instead of running the same dose?

He did that on his 1st cycle T...this one is just 500mg Test E

[t-dogg]

He did that on his 1st cycle T...this one is just 500mg Test E

Totally missed that...

[Brick]

I would love to kick tht with some Tbol to begin.

Looked up Tbol (Turnibol?). It says oral turnibol, is there also an injectable version or only only?
Slow muscle and strength growth that tends to stay and little to no water (bloat).

sounds like a good compound to me except it says 'near impossible' to find in America (I am in Canada).
I will check with my source to see the availability of it to him.
I am not asking for a source but does anyone have any trouble finding this?

Can keep it as is if that's what you were going for. If you planning on throwing another item in there you gotta have reasoning and desired effect don't do it for the sake of it... So what addition do you want up from a straight test cycle is a better approach!

Strength and size. Don't want to dirty bulk at all, all going to be clean and slow (lean bulk maybe). I plan on being 10-12% bf before my next cycle so I don't want to gain much fat! I'd love to hit 315+ bench, 475+ squat and 500+ deadlift (currently at 275, 390, 425).

Also getting into O lifts, just for the explosive lifts and they really appeal to me

..or Var at the end.

Var to add a bit of cut or.....?

[Lunk1]

You just wake up from that nap? Christ Rip VanWinkle....

If no Tbol then Halo (also oral) is agreat choice as well.

Like Mick said Var at the end to harden up a but is a great toss in as well. Var is a bit pricey if thats an issue!

[Lunk1]

You know the difference between benching 275 and benching 315????

[Brick]

You know the difference between benching 275 and benching 315????

40 pounds? haha

[Lunk1]

40 pounds? haha

Fark..now I have to come up with something else that is far less funny

Honestly back when I was 14 I remember getting from 275 to 315 It was mostly in my head!

Have someone else load the weight and don't use a 3rd plate. have em use 2 10' on each side and you never look at it.

[Brick]

Fark..now I have to come up with something else that is far less funny

Honestly back when I was 14 I remember getting from 275 to 315 It was mostly in my head!

Have someone else load the weight and don't use a 3rd plate. have em use 2 10' on each side and you never look at it.

thanks.... lol

[mmgearworks]

You got a ton of options to add keeping it on the clean side man.
Pop some primo in there for the entirety if you got the moola. Beautiful and safe second cycle straight testE and primo! Members will be jealous....
Also can check out a nice long run of var in the back half, will work out nicely as you can extend past the test 2weeks or so to cover the ester widow period then only hop on PCT, should harden you up nicely!
Long ester masteron throughout or short estered in the back instead of Var! Tbol will also yield those types of gains as suggested maybe throw it in the front if you do the primo or long mast route, that will be power... But i would prefer a DHT for your goals as the base with the test!

[Brick]

You got a ton of options to add keeping it on the clean side man.
Pop some primo in there for the entirety if you got the moola. Beautiful and safe second cycle straight testE and primo! Members will be jealous....
Also can check out a nice long run of var in the back half, will work out nicely as you can extend past the test 2weeks or so to cover the ester widow period then only hop on PCT, should harden you up nicely!
Long ester masteron throughout or short estered in the back instead of Var! Tbol will also yield those types of gains as suggested maybe throw it in the front if you do the primo or long mast route, that will be power... But i would prefer a DHT for your goals as the base with the test!

Primo same as mast pretty much?
Primo fvcking expensive though

Var at end would be nice.

Maybe Tbol to kick it off.

[mmgearworks]

Not exactly... Primo is a lot less of a harsh DHT, people tend to see alot more of your classic DHT sides on masteron! Which one is a better choice changes user to user strength on masteron is insane very dry hard gains! Primo has magic powers because you pay so much for it (but seriously a beautiful steroid)!
Your choice, I wouldn't wanna do the orals at the front and the whole back end of the cycle, avoid strain or at least limit strain on the liver where you can!

[mmgearworks]

Also it's only second cycle! Suggestions are mild but try keep it as simple as possible... Have plenty time to try all of these alone to see how you like. Lets pick one to add to your test? I would choose either the MastE or primo as a base with the test or I would choose the Var in the back end

[Brick]

Not exactly... Primo is a lot less of a harsh DHT, people tend to see alot more of your classic DHT sides on masteron! Which one is a better choice changes user to user strength on masteron is insane very dry hard gains! Primo has magic powers because you pay so much for it (but seriously a beautiful steroid)!
Your choice, I wouldn't wanna do the orals at the front and the whole back end of the cycle, avoid strain or at least limit strain on the liver where you can!

KISS right? I don't want to do (new) cycles with more than one (new) compound. So if I choose oral at front there would be nothing at back etc etc. If I have an adverse reaction I wouldn't know which compound is causing it.

I am leaning towards primo or Tbol at start or var at end. I need to do a lot more research on them all and wha effects they have and results to expect. See which one best aligns with my goals. Later tonight I will set some more clear goals