Deca Vs. EQ

**Jonnyg419** · 10-26-2012, 01:20 PM

I am planning on stacking Test with another compound for my second cycle, looking to do a mass cycle. I really want to do Deca but I am a little afraid of the sides and might hold that one off for a later cycle when I have more experience, I am considering EQ, just want to know how you guys feel about it as a mass building steroid ? I have read up on EQ but there is no substitute for hearing about real life application, so that is why I am asking. I'm 27, 5'10, 181lbs

**rmbX66t1** · 10-26-2012, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by Jonnyg419

I am planning on stacking Test with another compound for my second cycle, looking to do a mass cycle. I really want to do Deca but I am a little afraid of the sides and might hold that one off for a later cycle when I have more experience, I am considering EQ, just want to know how you guys feel about it as a mass building steroid? I have read up on EQ but there is no substitute for hearing about real life application, so that is why I am asking. I'm 27, 5'10, 181lbs

I probably love EQ more than anyone on these forums. However, if you're looking to add mass with a secondary substance to testosterone - deca is the better option (supremely better). EQ is a third or fourth compound in my cycles, and the benefits of it are not indispensable. If the fear of deca side effects is hindering you, get some reading in on progestins, progersterone, and prolactin. That should be able to get you to a point of comfort.

**Lunk1** · 10-26-2012, 01:29 PM

EQ=garbage!

Any particular reason that you are opposed to another test cycle? Everyone automatically wants to toss in extra compounds with each new cycle. Simply not necessary!

**rmbX66t1** · 10-26-2012, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

EQ=garbage!

Any particular reason that you are opposed to another test cycle? Everyone automatically wants to toss in extra compounds with each new cycle. Simply not necessary!

This is also a very valid point you should be considering, OP.

**austinite** · 10-26-2012, 01:35 PM

apples and oranges...

I'd never consider EQ.

**fit2bOld** · 10-26-2012, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

apples and oranges...

I'd never consider EQ.

Money better spent on things like protein IMHO

**Lunk1** · 10-26-2012, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by fit2bOld

Money better spent on things like protein IMHO

The $ spent on EQ would secure a number of lap dances

**Jonnyg419** · 10-26-2012, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

EQ=garbage!

Any particular reason that you are opposed to another test cycle? Everyone automatically wants to toss in extra compounds with each new cycle. Simply not necessary!

I here you..I got very nice gains crom just test, but I'm trying to add a solid amount of mass.

**Capebuffalo** · 10-26-2012, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

EQ=garbage!

Any particular reason that you are opposed to another test cycle? Everyone automatically wants to toss in extra compounds with each new cycle. Simply not necessary!

This is a valid question. Maybe up the dose a little. Try a different ester.
Once you start tacking its hard to go back. You can get great gains with test and diet. Still I promise.
Just think it over a little

**Lunk1** · 10-26-2012, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

This is a valid question. Maybe up the dose a little. Try a different ester.
Once you start tacking its hard to go back. You can get great gains with test and diet. Still I promise.
Just think it over a little

Not to mention improving diet and having better results from that alone!

**Buster Brown** · 10-26-2012, 04:21 PM

Alot of people say you need to do Eq at a higher dose and criticize it for being a weak compound(which it is comparison) but isn't it true that you need to do a boat-load of Primo to see results from it? Most guys can't probably afford to purchase the amount of Primo needed to see the benefit unlike Eq. Just my .02 cents

**Jonnyg419** · 10-26-2012, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Not to mention improving diet and having better results from that alone!

my diet is very solid..I spend waay more cash on whole food then I do on spps. And I don't want to stack bc I got crappy results with test alone. I actually got great results , but I'm in to bodybuilding so I always want more haha..I'm sure you guys can relate...I agree with you guys though I may just do another test cycle and keep it simple.

**Lunk1** · 10-26-2012, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Jonnyg419

my diet is very solid..I spend waay more cash on whole food then I do on spps. And I don't want to stack bc I got crappy results with test alone. I actually got great results , but I'm in to bodybuilding so I always want more haha..I'm sure you guys can relate...I agree with you guys though I may just do another test cycle and keep it simple.

Your response seems as if your a bit aggitated at the suggestion of making sure your diet is on point! Never hurts to get another opinion does it? Yes ALOT of ppl think "wanting more" means adding more when in fact, even as you stated, you had GREAT results.

I know if anything gave me great results I would keep doing it the same way till I no longer got GREAT results. Been my motto since puberty

**kelkel** · 10-26-2012, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Your response seems as if your a bit aggitated at the suggestion of making sure your diet is on point! Never hurts to get another opinion does it? Yes ALOT of ppl think "wanting more" means adding more when in fact, even as you stated, you had GREAT results.

I know if anything gave me great results I would keep doing it the same way till I no longer got GREAT results. Been my motto since puberty

And that was over 40 some years ago.....distant memories....

**Jonnyg419** · 10-26-2012, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Your response seems as if your a bit aggitated at the suggestion of making sure your diet is on point! Never hurts to get another opinion does it? Yes ALOT of ppl think "wanting more" means adding more when in fact, even as you stated, you had GREAT results.

I know if anything gave me great results I would keep doing it the same way till I no longer got GREAT results. Been my motto since puberty

sorry man didn't mean to come off as aggitated but I do take pride in my diet u make a very compelling argent for sticking with just the test plus that would save me a ton of cash

**MickeyKnox** · 10-27-2012, 09:26 AM

I love these EQ questions. The comments are as diversified as the members themselves. But, it really boils down to two answers: either you love it or hate, no in between.

So, since my TRT program is not coming to fruition until the new year, i have decided to take this opportunity to run a experiment for myself to determine the effects of EQ. And hopefully put this nonsense to rest once and for all, at least for me. Is it really only good to oil up a bicycle chain? (Aust, that was funny!) I guess we'll see.

In short, im running 125/wk test e (self administered TRT) & 500/wk EQ, hCG on cycle. I will run it for 14wks, maybe 16 depending on gains/or lack of. And yes i use an AI on cycle, stane @ 12.5mg/day. <---this works for ME.

*I don't recommend anyone run my AI protocol unless you have first determined that you require it based on sides, which i have.*

Im keeping a detailed log of this so i may do a write up at the end and lay out my experiences.

**rmbX66t1** · 10-27-2012, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

I love these EQ questions. The comments are as diversified as the members themselves. But, it really boils down to two answers: either you love it or hate, no in between.

So, since my TRT program is not coming to fruition until the new year, i have decided to take this opportunity to run a experiment for myself to determine the effects of EQ. And hopefully put this nonsense to rest once and for all, at least for me. Is it really only good to oil up a bicycle chain? (Aust, that was funny!) I guess we'll see.

In short, im running 125/wk test e (self administered TRT) & 500/wk EQ, hCG on cycle. I will run it for 14wks, maybe 16 depending on gains/or lack of. And yes i use an AI on cycle, stane @ 12.5mg/day. <---this works for ME.

*I don't recommend anyone run my AI protocol unless you have first determined that you require it based on sides, which i have.*

Im keeping a detailed log of this so i may do a write up at the end and lay out my experiences.

I absolutely love EQ! It is not a powerful compound, by any means. However, it is a fantastic addition to a large bulking cycle. People would be amazed at the results EQ can provide, when you add 1,000mg a week to a cycle.

**MickeyKnox** · 10-27-2012, 09:45 AM

I may up it to 750/wk. This is why i have decided to run it out longer. This will give me and opportunity and time to adjust if necessary. Again, depending on gains and sides.

**rmbX66t1** · 10-27-2012, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

I may up it to 750/wk. This is why i have decided to run it out longer. This will give me and opportunity and time to adjust if necessary. Again, depending on gains and sides.

That's another key point, longevity. I see a lot of people running it for ten to twelve weeks. I mean shit, it is the undeclynate esther, it is active in your body for around two weeks. I would never run deca for less than sixteen weeks, and I treat EQ the same way. I personally believe, that in low to moderate doses, EQ is simply more beneficial for HRT patients. The major question that comes into point when referring to EQ is affordability. You certainly don't get the bang for buck you do from tren , deca, etc. However, there are alot of added perc's that I believe are well worth it, if you can afford it.