BF to high?

**xalos21** · 10-29-2012, 04:06 PM

What's up guys

Thinking about starting my first cycle in a week or 2.
Stats
31years
195 lb
16.3 bf
Running test only
250mg twice a week l-dex as needed pct. Nolva and clomid
Just wanted your advice on starting at this bf%. And if this would add any sides.

**t-dogg** · 10-29-2012, 04:15 PM

I would get your bf% under 15% to lessen sides.

**Gioz** · 10-29-2012, 04:17 PM

Go to 10/11% and then start a bulking cycle

**xalos21** · 10-29-2012, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by t-dogg

I would get your bf% under 15% to lessen sides.

That's what I was thinking about what side am I looking at if decide to start at this bf

**frank13** · 10-29-2012, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by xalos21

That's what I was thinking about what side am I looking at if decide to start at this bf

higher bf more sides really any estrogen related sides there are like gyno acne and so on

**fit2bOld** · 10-29-2012, 04:45 PM

You will want to post your complete stats/goals to get good advice.

**xalos21** · 10-29-2012, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by fit2bOld

You will want to post your complete stats/goals to get good advice.

I'm 5'9
Goal to bulk lean . I do a lot of high intensely training due to the fact that I'm involved in marathons and obstacle runs.

**Bio-Active** · 10-29-2012, 06:09 PM

Get your body fat below 12% you will enjoy the cycle results more with less sides.

**realgear** · 10-29-2012, 06:10 PM

Xalos21 How long you been in the gym also were did you get your bfi at?? just curious I dont see very many marathon runners with that high of a bfi

**warmouth** · 10-29-2012, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by gioz

go to 10/11% and then start a bulking cycle

lol!!!!

**warmouth** · 10-29-2012, 06:12 PM

16.3% is pretty good with your stats. It would help to get down a bit, but you are planning to bulk. I assume you are going to cut after?

**Metalject** · 10-29-2012, 06:13 PM

You can start using test now. Yes, estrogenic effects increase in probability when body fat is higher, but you're still well within a controllable range. I wouldn't, however, worry too much about adding a lot of extra mass right now. That requires excess calories even with steroids .

**warmouth** · 10-29-2012, 06:19 PM

Sort of what I was thinking. The test itself should decrease BF pretty well. At 16%, I could see it reducing dramatically, especially if diet is dialed in.

**austinite** · 10-29-2012, 06:19 PM

16.3 isn't bad if you're running test. If you're running winny for example, you're wasting time.

**MickeyKnox** · 10-29-2012, 06:19 PM

Your results will be favorable if you cut first then bulk. Lots of information here on the benefits of cutting then bulking.

Good luck.

**MickeyKnox** · 10-29-2012, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Gioz

Go to 10/11% and then start a bulking cycle

I agree with this.

**xalos21** · 10-29-2012, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by realgear

Xalos21 How long you been in the gym also were did you get your bfi at?? just curious I dont see very many marathon runners with that high of a bfi

Got the bf measured at the gym have worked out for 2 years. Got into running to lose weight dropped over 30 lb. This year by running. Not a great runner but built up resistence and endurance.

**xalos21** · 10-29-2012, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by warmouth

Sort of what I was thinking. The test itself should decrease BF pretty well. At 16%, I could see it reducing dramatically, especially if diet is dialed in.

Looked up my calories online and it recommended 3100 a day just have to look up my macros to get my diet straight.