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    So much information...help!

    Hey guys I've been doing some research over the past couple of days regarding AAS and I've got a couple questions. For my first cycle I wanna take Test-e at 500 mg a week. Now I've seen on some websites that the test comes in a 5ml vile, unless I'm just really stupid, you can't convert the two correct? Sooo how exactly do you know how much to draw out? Also if you're taking something like nolva as an anti-estrogen can you still take it as a pct?

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    Welcome.

    What do you mean "Convert the two"??

    5ML vial (not vile ) - will be dosed at whatever per ML, so if its 250 per ML, and you want 250mg, you draw 1 ML. Same with 10ml Vial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
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    What do you mean "Convert the two"??

    5ML vial (not vile ) - will be dosed at whatever per ML, so if its 250 per ML, and you want 250mg, you draw 1 ML. Same with 10ml Vial.
    Alright so if you wanted 500 mg per week a 5ml vial would last just over two weeks at two injections per week correct?

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    You have to account for residual loss and some that can not be drawn from the vial. Always have more than you calculate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    You have to account for residual loss and some that can not be drawn from the vial. Always have more than you calculate
    So for a 12 week cycle 6 5ml vials would cover the whole cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thereturn01 View Post
    So for a 12 week cycle 6 5ml vials would cover the whole cycle?
    Yes...you would need 24ML without accounting for wast so 30ML would be great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Yes...you would need 24ML without accounting for wast so 30ML would be great!
    Alright great, and also one last question if you don't mind, would someone be able to take nolva as an anti estrogen and still take it as a pct?

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    You run a Ai like Adex to control water weight.Beacuse to much could lead to estro problems.You take nova on cycle at the 1st sign of gyno.Nova blocks estro it dont stop it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thereturn01
    Alright great, and also one last question if you don't mind, would someone be able to take nolva as an anti estrogen and still take it as a pct?
    Nolva is a serm(selective estrogen receptor modulator) it binds with the estrogen receptors in the breast tissue to keep estrogen from binding with them, that's what presents the gyno. It's typically used as needed on cycle and during pct because of other things it stimulates as well as prevents gyno.

    Arimidex is an ai (aromatose inhibitor) it works by blocking the aromatose enzyme from converting test to estro, not stopping it completely but keeping your estrogen levels at a "normal" range with proper dosing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tron3219 View Post
    Nolva is a serm(selective estrogen receptor modulator) it binds with the estrogen receptors in the breast tissue to keep estrogen from binding with them, that's what presents the gyno. It's typically used as needed on cycle and during pct because of other things it stimulates as well as prevents gyno.

    Arimidex is an ai (aromatose inhibitor) it works by blocking the aromatose enzyme from converting test to estro, not stopping it completely but keeping your estrogen levels at a "normal" range with proper dosing.
    How would you dose arimidex ?
    Last edited by thereturn01; 11-05-2012 at 03:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thereturn01
    How would you dose arimidex?
    Standard dosage is .5mg EOD, read up on it guy, were here to help, not do your homework for you. You may need to adjust the dosage according to you, look up the side effects of too much and not enough arimidex , or get blood work done to find the sweet spot. But .5 is a good starting point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tron3219 View Post
    Standard dosage is .5mg EOD, read up on it guy, were here to help, not do your homework for you. You may need to adjust the dosage according to you, look up the side effects of too much and not enough arimidex, or get blood work done to find the sweet spot. But .5 is a good starting point
    For a basic test cycle like this .25 mg EOD is sufficent for most. You can adjust up from there if necessary. It's much easier todetermine if more AI is needed than it is to determine if too much is being used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    For a basic test cycle like this .25 mg EOD is sufficent for most. You can adjust up from there if necessary. It's much easier todetermine if more AI is needed than it is to determine if too much is being used.
    So how does this look to you for a first cycle.
    Weeks 1-12 500 mg test e per week
    Weeks 1-12 .25 mg arimidex eod
    weeks 16-17 nolva 40mg per day
    weeks 18-19 nolva 20mg per day

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    Quote Originally Posted by thereturn01 View Post
    So how does this look to you for a first cycle.
    Weeks 1-12 500 mg test e per week
    Weeks 1-12 .25 mg arimidex eod
    weeks 16-17 nolva 40mg per day
    weeks 18-19 nolva 20mg per day
    PCT would start 14 days after last injection, are you not planning to use Clomid then??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    PCT would start 14 days after last injection, are you not planning to use Clomid then??
    Most things that I've read have said that nolva is the preferred pct, is that not the case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thereturn01 View Post
    Most things that I've read have said that nolva is the preferred pct, is that not the case?
    They work on different receptors and provide different rebound assistance. I prefer both...

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