Truth about Tren A & Tes Pro

[kingcali]

hi folks,

i am here to find out some facts about a Tren A & Tes Pro cycle!!

1) please do not give me your 2 cents about how bad it is!
2) please only respond if you, yourself has ran at least 2 cycles of Tren A & Tes Pro!!

now lets get started!! i am in the research stage of this, not anywher close to pinning!!

i have been doing alot of reading through forums, talking with experienced bodybuilders that compete and own nutrion stores.

i understand the cycle will have diff sides on each person depending on the person.

i would like to know your opinion on this...
--is it better to start tes pro first, then bring in tren A, a wk later. or is better to start them at the same time and run tes pro a wk longer? and why?

--if one starts off at 50mg EOD tren A and maintains that amount will one even notice results? (have read one needs 300mg a wk to get prime results)

--what is your opinion about the ED vs EOD? sides difference, results difference,

since you have ran this cycle before could u pleae list out your pin schedule, dose, pct, and breif layout of workout type..if you changed something diff on the 2nd run what was it and why??

thanks alot to evey that chimes in!!

thanks folks

[Capebuffalo]

What are stats
BF%

[JohnnyVegas]

since you have ran this cycle before could u pleae list out your pin schedule, dose, pct, and breif layout of workout type..if you changed something diff on the 2nd run what was it and why??

Lay out a pinning schedule, dose, PCT and how to work out? Come on, you are going to have to do SOME reading on your own.

I recommend you start with Atomini's Tren thread. So much of what you need is in there.

To get more advice in this thread you may want to list your stats and cycle experience.

[Lunk1]

I think it may help if you edit your post and ASK for HELP in a less DEMANDING fashion. Many of us have tons of tren experience but few of us are willing to spoon feed someone especially when the post sets guidlines for who can and who can't help!

Just a helping thought!

[kingcali]

keep it movin if you not interested in posting something useful

[Anxnymous]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ctively-thread! Get crackin.

[Anxnymous]

im on tren ace now, week 4 starts thursday. I pin Thursday morning & Monday morning, and dosages depend on if you ever used tren before, read that thread ^^^

[Lunk1]

keep it movin if you not interested in posting something useful

Useful? Try respect...might be the most useful tool you could have here...GOOD LUCK!

[JohnnyVegas]

keep it movin if you not interested in posting something useful

A quick note: as the knowledgeable guys cycle through here and see your lack of stats, lack of research and unrealistic expectations they will do exactly what you say...they will keep it movin' because they are not interested in helping. You will be left with guys that ARE willing to help, but have much less, if any, real knowledge.

Everyone above has been trying to help. At least read the thread that Anxnymous posted the link to. It is the thread I mentioned and it contains literally all you need to know about Tren .

[JohnnyVegas]

im on tren ace now, week 4 starts thursday. I pin Thursday morning & Monday morning, and dosages depend on if you ever used tren before, read that thread ^^^

You are pinning Tren A only twice a week?

[Anxnymous]

it was eod in delts but got to sore, so changed it to twice a week an im gonna start eod in the glutes

[Capebuffalo]

Useful? Try respect...might be the most useful tool you could have here...GOOD LUCK!

Gets old don't it.

[JohnnyVegas]

it was eod in delts but got to sore, so changed it to twice a week an im gonna start eod in the glutes

You definitely need to have a lot of injection spots when you are doing EOD. Once you are doing delts and glutes, you might want to try quads as well. This will help you develop less scar tissue.

[Lunk1]

Gets old don't it.

My patience cycles. had a ton yesterday...must have used up my reserves lol

[Lunk1]

You definitely need to have a lot of injection spots when you are doing EOD. Once you are doing delts and glutes, you might want to try quads as well. This will help you develop less scar tissue.

I agree whole heartedly, when EOD injections I prefer min. of 6 sites!

[Anxnymous]

You definitely need to have a lot of injection spots when you are doing EOD. Once you are doing delts and glutes, you might want to try quads as well. This will help you develop less scar tissue.

Yeah i will, thanks bro.

[kingcali]

so ive read the link.. cool, it answered my 2nd question.

but wat yalls opinion about starting tren and tes at the same time, or bringing tren in a wk later or running test 1-2 wks longer than tren??

ive read diff views about people stating what they did with this but no one elaborated on the issue and described what they think works best and why.

[Lunk1]

so ive read the link.. cool, it answered my 2nd question.

but wat yalls opinion about starting tren and tes at the same time, or bringing tren in a wk later or running test 1-2 wks longer than tren??

ive read diff views about people stating what they did with this but no one elaborated on the issue and described what they think works best and why.

When using both short esters like prop and ace (ace actually being a hair faster) ther is no reason to start or stop them at different times.

Start em together and end em together!!!!!!!!!

[kingcali]

thanks lunk, much appreciated

[JohnnyVegas]

When using both short esters like prop and ace (ace actually being a hair faster) ther is no reason to start or stop them at different times.

Start em together and end em together!!!!!!!!!

Agreed.

[kingcali]

thanks johnnyvegas

[kingcali]

sorry you u guys thought i was trying to be hand feed with info.. thats not the case that i was trying to persent to you guys.

i have been reading up on this cycle for a few months now and also talking with a few diff people that have ran tren ace. i find it interesting that tren affects some when doing cardio and others have no problem.

i know 2 guys they wher both on the same dose of tren and worked out side by side..one did physquie in a comp and other did the bodybuildn ( not very knowledgeed in comptetions).. physique had a problem with cardio while the other maintained 40 mins a day of cardio..for that reason i became curious how people worked out on the cycle and how diff workout routines might affect them

even crazier is one used pct and the other did not use any..which i find really crazy on his part!! this is why i asked for people to list a breif description about ther workout routine to see if ther is a diff in how one worked out that might contribute to the cardio factor since it effects diff people diff

[Lunk1]

It's less about the hand feeding and more about the portrayed demanding attitude in the original post...letting it go though.

Tren has so many different effects on different ppl. I have heard of some with increased labido and some decreased, some with sweats and some with none (I get them), some with insomnia and some with none (I get this too), some with lucid dreams and some without. All AAS is going to effect individuals differently. This is why we preache test only for the first cycle and add compounds one at a time. This way you know the culprit to balme for the side effects.

I would be curious to know what your 2 lab rats ran for tren doses? Were they the same?? Even if so..yes I know guys who's cardio is not effected but often this and other sides are dose dependant.

[kingcali]

thanks lunk1,

sorry for sounding demanding, i didnt mean to come across that way.


iam going to ask my lab rats wat their dose was, at the time i didnt bother to ask cause they were on so much other stuff previous to that and both were just tryn to accomplish the shred look 6 wks before the show started. due to them being on so much other stuff i figured that had alot to do with outcomes, effects, and would not be able to give me the answers i was looking for..

me personally i dont think im goin to run the tren a and tes pro cycle.. as previous to this i have never done tes.. only winny and annavar.. i do enjoy educating my self on the cycle tho, cause its very ineteresting mostly because so many react so differently to it..but it will be in the future at some point and since it has so many sides, and concerns i feel its never bad to get a jump start on the correct info

thanks for being patient with me so far.. much appreciated

[Lunk1]

My pleasure...def. make that first cycle a solid test only cycle. I love tren deep in my heart but I'm even considering going back to a nice test only next year. You really cant beat it!

[kingcali]

so ive decided to run a test prop only cycle since i have never ran any test before.. figure if my body rejects it in anyway i can stop right away and possibly be in the clear..

one question i have is, what do you guys think about forma stanzol for pct??

test prop- 8 wks eod 125mg, arimidex .5mg eod, hcg 250 iu eod

and clom and nolva for pct..

but what is your opinion on sustuting the forma stanzol in place of the clo/nolv

[kingcali]

sorry the hcg twice wkly

[ghettoboyd]

so ive decided to run a test prop only cycle since i have never ran any test before.. figure if my body rejects it in anyway i can stop right away and possibly be in the clear..

one question i have is, what do you guys think about forma stanzol for pct??

test prop- 8 wks eod 125mg, arimidex .5mg eod, hcg 250 iu eod

and clom and nolva for pct..

but what is your opinion on sustuting the forma stanzol in place of the clo/nolv

dont be cheap on your PCT bro...use the nolva/clomid protocol post cycle not any over the counter stuff...

[Lunk1]

Drop your Adex to .25mg eod to start! You can always work up if E2 related sides present themselves

[kingcali]

thanks, i will deff not be using any over the counter stuff...

and LUNK1 thanks again

much respect

[Lunk1]

Best of luck...post a cycle thread in members cycle section and make sure too get your diet checked in nutrition. Best way to have the best results! Have fun but be safe and smart !

[kingcali]

will do, thanks alot for the help so far..

still got another month of research and fine tuning before i jump aboard the ship..

ive been on top of the diet as far as eating healthly, taking vitamins, protein,carbs, fish oil, l-arginine/ l-citrulline pills...,

i just dont eat 6 meals a day like most peps do.. i will post it up tho, thanks for the advice

much respect

[Lunk1]

will do, thanks alot for the help so far..

still got another month of research and fine tuning before i jump aboard the ship..

ive been on top of the diet as far as eating healthly, taking vitamins, protein,carbs, fish oil, l-arginine/ l-citrulline pills...,

i just dont eat 6 meals a day like most peps do.. i will post it up tho, thanks for the advice

much respect

The number of meals eatin is a myth....just hit your macros with good food choices!! I usually get 5 meals...Bfast, Lunch,PWO,supper,before bed

[human project]

[QUOTE="kingcali"]hi folks,

i am here to find out some facts about a Tren A & Tes Pro cycle!!

1) please do not give me your 2 cents about how bad it is!
2) please only respond if you, yourself has ran at least 2 cycles of Tren A & Tes Pro!!

now lets get started!! i am in the research stage of this, not anywher close to pinning!!

i have been doing alot of reading through forums, talking with experienced bodybuilders that compete and own nutrion stores.

i understand the cycle will have diff sides on each person depending on the person.

i would like to know your opinion on this...
--is it better to start tes pro first, then bring in tren A, a wk later. or is better to start them at the same time and run tes pro a wk longer? and why?

--if one starts off at 50mg EOD tren A and maintains that amount will one even notice results? (have read one needs 300mg a wk to get prime results)

--what is your opinion about the ED vs EOD? sides difference, results difference,

since you have ran this cycle before could u pleae list out your pin schedule, dose, pct, and breif layout of workout type..if you changed something diff on the 2nd run what was it and why??

thanks alot to evey that chimes in!!

thanks folks[/

Any amount of tren will put muscle on you, I would start at 50mg every other day and increase weekly until the sides become too uncomfortable. I can usually bare 500mg per week and yield great results. Tren can be harsh but is usually dose dependent,