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11-06-2012, 07:32 PM #1New Member
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Help with my first cycle (var & test prop)
Hello Everyone,
Let me start off by thanking everyone that reads my post! I am going to start my first cycle ever I have been researching for a while and watching numerous videos on this stuff and I believe I am finally ready to do my first cycle. I was a little cautious about the side effects but I am just going through with it. The first cycle I am going to do is Anavar /Test propionate cycle.
My stats are 230 pounds, 6 ft, around 15- 20 % bodyfat.
I am going to allow myself 60 days of vigorous training eating fish, chicken, veggies only. To prep myself for this cycle
I am hitting the gym 6 days a week with Monday’s weight lifting, Tuesday’s cardio, Wednesday’s weight lifting, Thursdays Cardio. Etc.
I am going to be on this regimen because of my body type I am an endomorph so I carry most of my weight in my mid-section and thighs. I believe people that have my body type have to do more cardio then those who are ectomorphs. I gain muscle very fast that is not a problem but I also gain fat very fast as well so that is my purpose for the clean eating plus my health.
I know some may say that I shouldn’t run letro with nolva because it is redundant but my plan is to shut down the estrogen production in my body to a minimal I know some may say that is bad but that is why I will be using HCG later on in the cycle to help stabilize the hormones. There has been a lot of studies that show great success of letro and nolva together. I have some slight gyno from puberty and the studies show that it is great at reversing the mam gland.
I am going to be taking my multivitamin, b complex, fish oil, and liver support throughout the cycle.
Week 1 30 mg of var ed, and 100mg of testosterone eod, 2.5 letro ed, 20 mg of clen ed
Week 2 40 mg of var ed and 100 mg testosterone eod, 2.5 letro ed, 20 mg of clen ed
Week 3 50 mg of var ed and 100 mg testosterone eod,2.5 letro ed, 20 of clen ed
Week 4 60 mg of var ed and 100 mg testosterone eod, 2.5 letro ed, 20 mg of clen ed
Week 5 70 mg of var ed and 100 mg testosterone eod,2.5 letro ed, 20 mg of clen ed
Week 6 60 mg of var ed and 100 mg testosterone eod, 2.5 letro ed, 20 mg of clen ed
Week 7 50 mg of var ed and 100 mg testosterone eod, 2.5 letro ed, 20 mg of clen ed
Week 8 40 mg of var ed and 100 mg testosterone eod, 2.5 letro ed, 20 mg of clen ed
Week 9 30 mg of var ed and 100 mg testosterone eod, 2.5 letro ed, 250 iu or .5 cc HCG 2x a week, 20 mg of clen ed
Week 10 100 mg of testosterone eod, 2.5 mg letro ed, 250 iu or .5 cc HCG 2x a week, 20 mg of clen ed
Week 11 100 mg of testosterone eod, 2.5 mg letro ed, 250 iu or .5 cc HCG 2x a week, 20 mg of clen ed
Week 12 100 mg of testosterone eod,2.5 mg letro ed, 250 iu or .5 cc HCG 2x a week, 20 mg of clen ed
PCT
Week 13 40 mg of nolva ed, 2.5 mg of letro ed, 250 iu or .5 cc HCG 2x a week, 20 mg of clen ed
Week 14 40 mg of nolva ed, 2.5 mg of letro ed, 250 iu or .5 cc HCG 2x a week, 20 mg of clen ed
Week 15 40 mg of nolva ed, 2.5 mg of letro ed, 250 iu or .5 cc HCG 2x a week, 20 mg of clen ed
Week 16 40 mg of nolva ed, 2.5 mg of letro ed, 250 iu or .5 cc HCG 2x a week, 20 mg of clen ed
I am looking for feedback regarding my cycle and I want to hear from those that have ran a similar cycle like mine. Any advice will help I am not looking for any discouragement. Either way I am going to run this cycle but would like some support. I also want to hear about how some of you pros have dealt with aggression. I am kind of a dick so I can only imagine what I will be like on gear. I was thinking about smoking the herb to keep the stress levels down let me know.
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11-06-2012, 07:42 PM #2
Welcome bro.
15 to 20% is too far of a range. We're talking about a great start at 15 % and you should not cycle at 20%.
Quick notes...
1. Changing your dosage throughout the cycle is not needed. Stick with a dose throughout your entire cycle.
2. Letro is quite a powerful AI, you should use something that is more manageable, such as Adex.
3. Your cycle is too long.
4. You really should stick to prop only and wait for your next cycle to run var.
Now, your cycle layout is making me blind, so let me help you out with what I think a first cycle should consist of...
Week 1 to 8 - Test Prop @ 100 to 150 MAX EOD.
Week 1 to 8 - HCG @ 250iu twice weekly.
Week 1 to 8 - Adex @ 0.25 EOD
Stop everything for 3 days and then...
PCT: clomid 100/50/50/50 and novla 40/20/20/20
You need to learn how your body reacts to Test only for your first cycle, this way you're not playing a guessing game trying to figure out which compound is causing the side effects. Furthermore; cycling at 20% BF is going to cause more harm than good. You risk blood pressure issues, higher risk of gyno, etc..., Anavar will do nothing at that body fat.
Lastly, understand that bulking and cutting starts with diet, AAS will merely amplify your diet's effects. If diet is poor, results will be minimal if any, and you will end up wasting time and money. Visit the nutrition section, let the pro's there know what your goals are and what you plan on eating in a typical day and they will help you maximize your results.
Best of luck to you.Last edited by austinite; 11-06-2012 at 07:45 PM.
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11-06-2012, 08:41 PM #3Banned
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11-07-2012, 10:04 AM #4New Member
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hey thanks for the feedback, i agree even though how disappointing it is for me id rather be safe than sorry. I am going to do 100mg of test prop eod. hcg twice a week, and run adex .25 ed. i will run nolva and clomid together for pct. do you have any suggestions for for dealing with the pain from the injections due to the test prop? I plan on mixing hcg with 10cc of bac water so just to confirm if i am mixing the hcg with bac water using 10cc will .5 cc will be 250iu? a little confused about the conversion.
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11-07-2012, 10:06 AM #5
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