First Cycle NO TEST

[BIGGUNSWANTED]

Everything I have read and been learning on the site says TEST on your first cycle. Especially to see how your body reacts to it. Not only am I the student need to be the teacher as well. What do I tell my buddies in the gym who are less educated and are probably gonna do what they want to do regardless of what I say? For example, mid to late 30's guys who work out on a daily basis. They DONT want to get any bigger just want to cut and look hard and lean. They are going to dable with Primo for 12-14 weeks. They were told this would lean them out I've done Primo too but I did it with Andropen . Wont Primo alone need to be dosed high and shut them down pretty hard? thanks for the input guys and gals and I will try and tell them what I learn from you.

[Tron3219]

Simple tell them without test their hpta will still shut down and their pee pee won't work

[Lunk1]

Primo yes needs to be dosed higher, run longer, cost more and needs to be run with test!

[BR0DIE]

They get shutdown and suffer all the effects of no test. No libido, ED, depression ect ect

[Tron3219]

The pee pee thing usually gets them lol

[BIGGUNSWANTED]

ha ha yea the pee pee thing will most def get them. lol

[fit2bOld]

Shut down is shut down, what is all this harder talk. There are substances that are more or less andorgenic and more or less Anabolic .
All will lead to shut down.

[BIGGUNSWANTED]

So being Primo seems to be one of the more safer compounds available............if they take just primo regareless of what I say. The recommendation of 2cc eod, woud give them min 600mg a week. should they do more than that? I've heard 800mg when doing primo alone is good but first timer 600 would work wouldn't it? they would go through 2 25ml bottles quickly hense the cost factor. Appreciate the input guys, thanks.

[MuscleInk]

So being Primo seems to be one of the more safer compounds available............if they take just primo regareless of what I say. The recommendation of 2cc eod, woud give them min 600mg a week. should they do more than that? I've heard 800mg when doing primo alone is good but first timer 600 would work wouldn't it? they would go through 2 25ml bottles quickly hense the cost factor. Appreciate the input guys, thanks.

Primo is one of the more expensive compounds. It's one of my favorites and I run it in every stack. Two types of primo (acetate and enanthate ). I run with primo-E. Its costly for sure. You can get results at 300mg/wk but they are far less dramatic than a 600+mg/wk.

I never run it alone as a single injectable, ever.

[Bio-Active]

Test should always be the base of all cycles.