Sex drive finally came back, now its gone again!? Could it be clen? at my wits end

**truerebel** · 11-10-2012, 05:15 PM

Finished a cycle of prop exactly 8 weeks ago today. 750mg/week, 8 weeks.

After a rough PCT where I was only able to fuk occasionally, had a lot of boner issues etc. Things finally went back to normal about 2 weeks post-PCT. Morning wood back in full force, driving over to girlfriends place in the middle of the night to satisfy urges etc. Then on the 1 first of this month I started back up on clen , which I havent used for ages. After a few days my libido crashed again, could not get a hard on etc. I thought it was my old problems coming back to haunt me, but I did some research on clen and apparently it kills some people's sex drive. I am one of the people who gets extremely tired on clen, like exhausted. Sometimes I can barely walk up a flight of stairs because my legs are so heavy and I just want to sleep all the time. I figured if it has this effect on me it could also be affecting my libido.

But I've been off it for 3 days now and STILL NO SEX DRIVE

please help guys

edit: I'm also eating very clean, low carb and perhaps not enough fat? Still, a slightly off diet shouldnt DESTROY my sex drive all together right? Bout to head out to maccas right now and get a fukload of saturated fat in to me.

**truerebel** · 11-10-2012, 05:26 PM

After this I think my steroid career is over, wont touch anything to do with it.

It pisses me off because I have friends who abuse the fuk out of 19-nors, barely know what theyre doing for pct, miss dosages etc. yet they come off and never miss a beat, still banging chicks every night without a problem.

why does this shit happen to me

**Bio-Active** · 11-10-2012, 05:28 PM

What was the PCT protocol you ran?

**truerebel** · 11-10-2012, 05:55 PM

Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20

I now realize i should of done hcg , but its so hard to get in australia, i dont know anyone who uses it or can get it

**Bio-Active** · 11-10-2012, 05:59 PM

So you just finished PCT? Be patient and give it another month. I would only use hcg during the cycle to keep testicle function. At this point hcg could be counter productive as it would cease lh function.

**gixxerboy1** · 11-10-2012, 07:06 PM

The pct was a littke weak. And pct isnt a light switch when ur finished ur recovered. It takes time to recover

**truerebel** · 11-10-2012, 07:13 PM

Okay I understand that but the main purpose of this was to ask why my libido came back in full force for about 4 days then just completely died again?

Could it of been the clen ? If so, how long before it gets out of my system?

Or do u think its part of the recovery process from the cycle that my libido comes an goes?

**Bio-Active** · 11-10-2012, 07:14 PM

your hormone levels are adjusting again it is hard to say with out running labs bro. Just give it some more time

**truerebel** · 11-10-2012, 07:26 PM

Okay bro i guess thats all i really can do..ya just take a healthy sex drive for granted and cant really imagine not having one so when it happens it sucks aha..

Would it be worth taking d aspartic acid? Will that affect my natural recovery at all?

**gymfu** · 11-10-2012, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by truerebel

After this I think my steroid career is over, wont touch anything to do with it.

It pisses me off because I have friends who abuse the fuk out of 19-nors, barely know what theyre doing for pct, miss dosages etc. yet they come off and never miss a beat, still banging chicks every night without a problem.

why does this shit happen to me

They won't get away with it forever.

Get some blood work done.

**Firepal** · 11-10-2012, 10:21 PM

hang in there bro it will come back with time

**Metalject** · 11-11-2012, 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by gymfu

They won't get away with it forever.

Get some blood work done.

I don't know, I've seen a lot of guys get away with it for a very long time. I know more guys than I can count who have run harsh competition cycles with very little to no test, stay on cycle the majority of the year and sometimes years at a time and come out just fine. And sure, I know plenty of the exact opposite. It's not as a sure thing as people often like to make it out to be.

As for the old "get some blood work done" comment, I'm always curious as to why people say this sometimes. A guy gets done with a cycle and runs a PCT plan, sure he can get blood work done but it's not like it's going to be all that accurate...not at this point. Time has to pass. People need to learn a little more patience with this stuff. Having regular blood work is great, I actually used to have mine run every 16wks for years but this had more to do with checking health issues, not precise hormonal levels. When you're on and off cycle...or in my case then normally on, hormone panels can be very misleading.

**AsEpSiS** · 11-11-2012, 04:36 PM

To the op

Do you have low libido, or do you have ED...or both? This situation is kind of odd. Your pct has been over for 6 weeks...right?

**AsEpSiS** · 11-11-2012, 04:45 PM

To the OP
In your original post, it was kind of hard to tell exactly when your pct ended. How long has it been since your pct has been finished?

**Bulkn** · 11-11-2012, 11:07 PM

I'd be careful if 8 weeks of prop is hitting you that hard. Wait a couple more days see what happens. You're right that the hormones take a long time to stabilize. I think you will come good again in time but if you decide to run more cycles in the future you may eventually end up on hrt.
I would have ran nolva 40/40/20/20 maybe even a 5th week of 10.
Try and see if you can get some ovidrel. It's the new pregnyl (a synthetic version) and works better too.

**ScotchGuard02** · 11-11-2012, 11:12 PM

The sex drive thing is pretty individual. What I mean by that is that each person based on age, genetics, and recovery had different reactions to AAS. My brother in law runs two cycles right in a row, does PCT, and can sleep with 4 women a day. K, I'm exaggerating a little but not much. I on the other hand, finish PCT and have to wait about 3 months to get back to normal. I get better results from the AAS than my brother in law. I get leaner and stronger than him. But he can recover faster from the cycle. I don't have a clear scientific explanation. Hang in there and give yourself some time. It'll come back.

**truerebel** · 11-12-2012, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by AsEpSiS

To the OP
In your original post, it was kind of hard to tell exactly when your pct ended. How long has it been since your pct has been finished?

Sorry for late reply, it has been exactly 1 month today since PCT ended.

I can't really tell at this point if it is ED, low libido or in my head..

I came back good about 10 days ago and it lasted ~3 days, rock hard morning wood, able to bang 3-4 times a night. Then the next night i lost erection on round 2 and have had problems all this past week. only managed to have sex 3 or so times.

I will admit though that every time Im with my girl I get really nervous and cant stop thinking about it, so maybe its in my head at this point or fuk knows..so i dont know if its low libido because every time I see a hot girl I immediately think of erection issues so it shuts down any thought of sex straight up

**JohnnyTribal** · 11-12-2012, 10:57 AM

Placebo is one of the strongest things out there. I am sure more of it has to do with the cycle and these guys/girls will help you, but for your own sanity have some confidence when your with her and make it happen in your head see if that helps. I have to kinda do that to myself periodically about a lot of different things on a daily basis and it works but takes practice.

**AsEpSiS** · 11-12-2012, 08:16 PM

I pretty much had the same thing happen to me. My labido never came and went, but I've dealt with post pct ed.....it sucks. My dick crashed three weeks into pct during sex....I was absolutely mortified. Two days later,i tried having sex again.....my dinky just fell over like a wet dish rag....i was crushed! 4 days later, i actually had sex successfully. However.....for about a month afterwards,i was having problems keeping a hard on. But, i really think that my two sexual failures F'd my head up so bad that i all i could think about while having sex was my Dick going floppy. After awhile, i started trying to use positive self talk, and focus on my chicks tits & ass during sex instead of thinking about my dink failing. Also, don't jack off.....watch porn....but don't stroke....save it for sexy time with your girl. Get yourself some maca, tribulus, viagra or cialis and give it some time. You'll be ok man!