Primobolan + Tren

**adamjames** · 11-11-2012, 12:10 PM

Just got some pharma primo and tren in!!! going to run them together with a very low test dose for my second cycle

Trying to decide on doses atm obviously had a lot of different opinions on this already but feel free to offer yours!! course will be 14 week cutter

some of you will recommend i stick to 2 compounds for my 2nd cycle like (primo + test) or (tren + test) but im running all 3 because the primo and tren i got cheap because they go out of date in 16 weeks

this is what ive got im mind atm

test E - 200 mg ew weeks 1 - 14
tren E - 300 mg ew weeks 1 - 14
primo - 400 mg ew weeks 1 - 14
arimidex on hand - i know what your thinking......he wont need that, your probably right but im very prone to moon head

got some dbol knocking about aswell might throw in 30 mg ed for first few weeks seen as im on the long esters

??

**ScotchGuard02** · 11-11-2012, 11:16 PM

This is going to be a potent cycle. I'd recommend you run at least the same amount of Test as Tren . Run the Test a couple of weeks longer than the Tren. You'll need some strong PCT Clomid 100/100/50/50 and Nolva 40/40/20/20. You probably will not come back to "normal" for a while after the PCT. Don't panic, just give yourself some time.

**Lunk1** · 11-11-2012, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by scotchguard02

this is going to be a potent cycle. I'd recommend you run at least the same amount of test as tren . run the test a couple of weeks longer than the tren. you'll need some strong pct clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20. You probably will not come back to "normal" for a while after the pct. Don't panic, just give yourself some time.

why?

**adamjames** · 11-12-2012, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02

This is going to be a potent cycle. I'd recommend you run at least the same amount of Test as Tren. Run the Test a couple of weeks longer than the Tren. You'll need some strong PCT Clomid 100/100/50/50 and Nolva 40/40/20/20. You probably will not come back to "normal" for a while after the PCT. Don't panic, just give yourself some time.

Test the same as tren ? bear in mind my goal is to reach 5 percent b.f with 0 water retention (which i am very prone to) im only looking to avoid complete shut down with the test dose nothing more.

At 200 mg per week im still double what most docs would prescribe for trt so it should be perfect dose right?

**austinite** · 11-12-2012, 08:41 AM

Sorry. But at 400mg per week for 14 weeks will yield just about nothing. I wouldnt waste money on that.

**Capebuffalo** · 11-12-2012, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

Sorry. But at 400mg per week for 14 weeks will yield just about nothing. I wouldnt waste money on that.

Have to agree. Over 600 mgs per week and 20 plus weeks. IMO.

**adamjames** · 11-12-2012, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

Have to agree. Over 600 mgs per week and 20 plus weeks. IMO.

how do you find recovery on 20 week cycles compared to 10 or 12? i am considering a 20 week blast and cruise cycle with 2 week cruise at 8 weeks and therefore i would probably start at 400 and go up to 600 at week 10 keeping tren and test the same

**Lunk1** · 11-12-2012, 10:15 AM

Are you on TRT????

**adamjames** · 11-12-2012, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Are you on TRT????

im not on TRT

**Lunk1** · 11-12-2012, 10:38 AM

Then I would NOT suggest balsting and cruising...unless you are wishing to be on TRT for life!

**Capebuffalo** · 11-12-2012, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by adamjames

how do you find recovery on 20 week cycles compared to 10 or 12? i am considering a 20 week blast and cruise cycle with 2 week cruise at 8 weeks and therefore i would probably start at 400 and go up to 600 at week 10 keeping tren and test the same

Honestly harder. The longer on the harder the recovery.
That being said I do Ronnie's slingshot. 8 on 2 off.
But I have a child and I'm fixed.
It did take me almost 8 months to fully recover from a longer cycle earlier in life.

**adamjames** · 11-12-2012, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Capebuffalo

Honestly harder. The longer on the harder the recovery.
That being said I do Ronnie's slingshot. 8 on 2 off.
But I have a child and I'm fixed.
It did take me almost 8 months to fully recover from a longer cycle earlier in life.

8 months!! thats a long time man did you mess up PCT or something because surely 8 months is not normal i recovered after 2 weeks pct on my first cycle

**Capebuffalo** · 11-12-2012, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by adamjames

8 months!! thats a long time man did you mess up PCT or something because surely 8 months is not normal i recovered after 2 weeks pct on my first cycle

No I did novla 100/50/50/50
Clomid 20/20/20/20
Hcg 5000 iu every 3 days for 15 days

Levels came back but the sperm count mobility and shape took for ever to get back to normal. Was trying to get the wife pregnant at that time is how I know.