cycle opinions

**kamojan** · 11-12-2012, 12:54 PM

So I'll be starting a new cutting cycle

I'll keep this simple

Test Enanthate
TBol
Masteron

EOA injections

PCT is clomid and HCG

Any tips / suggestions on the cycle?

This is my 5th cycle.

**kamojan** · 11-12-2012, 12:55 PM

Oh also this will be a 10-12 week cycle

**Tron3219** · 11-12-2012, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by kamojan

So I'll be starting a new cutting cycle

I'll keep this simple

Test Enanthate
TBol
Masteron

EOA injections

PCT is clomid and HCG

Any tips / suggestions on the cycle?

This is my 5th cycle.

What's ur stats fella? Age/weight/height/bf etc etc etc diet

**MuscleInk** · 11-12-2012, 01:13 PM

If this is your fifth cycle, can you present it correctly so we can evaluate it and provide feedback? Where's your AI? Only clomiphene for PCT?

**adamjames** · 11-12-2012, 01:39 PM

so what were your previous cycles and what doses you have planned

**kamojan** · 11-12-2012, 09:35 PM

25
6'0
190
Body fat 14% (off cycle ... pinched nerve couldn't do much got a bit fat lol)

My diets been steady on medium carb lots of greens and protein

Previous 2 cycles I did ana and test enenthate. DECA and sust prior to those.

**kamojan** · 11-12-2012, 09:37 PM

This is what my "expert" told me to do.

I personally would tell u do test enan 1cc plus masteron 1cc and clen every day. With some tbol not var. so ur doing EOD (every other day) test enan n masteron which will get help put lean muscle on and then clen every day to lean out and drop fat in the begining. And tbol for dry strength gain n only before the gym on workout days or in the morning on non workout days. If you bought out ur cycle I'd give u a good discount. But your looking at about 250 ur first three weeks to lean out and then 190 every three weeks. I'd highly recommend doing it for at least 4 months then doing a pct with hcg and chlomid. And when u do ur pct do clen again. Ull see ur body completely change the masteron is a hardening agent its like tren without the heavy side effects and it works like magic. The tbol will help alot with dry lean gain and doesn't hold water and is stronger then var. the test enan u wanna do at least 750 mg to grow bigger. Then clen n the begining and end to loose the fat and get u anabolic quickly because its fast acting and a stimulant. But cuts u fast if u follow a extremely strict diet and start at 100 mcg a day and mines is sublingual sprays that go rite away into ur bloodstream"

**adamjames** · 11-13-2012, 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by kamojan

25
6'0
190
Body fat 14% (off cycle ... pinched nerve couldn't do much got a bit fat lol)

My diets been steady on medium carb lots of greens and protein

Previous 2 cycles I did ana and test enenthate. DECA and sust prior to those.

previous 2? i thought you had done 5 cycles? lol, anyway, test, mast is a great cutting stack but so is test alone, diet and estro control are the main points

**songdog** · 11-13-2012, 03:55 AM

5 cycles 6' only 190 something isnt right bro! You need to hit the diet section and post your diet with macros.You should be over 200.

**kamojan** · 11-13-2012, 07:46 AM

Sorry I forgot to add the ones before lol did a cycle of sust and DECA , test enan + ana again and first ever was enan and dbol

As for my weight to be honest I don't wanna go up too much I tend to blow up fast even on ana and enan. The sust and deca cycle was the worst combo I looked like Santa Claus.

Diet is a main concern but they're being taken care of by a nutritionist (a friend is doing it for free)

**Honkey_Kong** · 11-13-2012, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by kamojan

Sorry I forgot to add the ones before lol did a cycle of sust and DECA , test enan + ana again and first ever was enan and dbol

As for my weight to be honest I don't wanna go up too much I tend to blow up fast even on ana and enan. The sust and deca cycle was the worst combo I looked like Santa Claus.

Diet is a main concern but they're being taken care of by a nutritionist (a friend is doing it for free)

You don't have to be fat to be over 200lbs. You should post your diet with macros. There are a lot of great athletes here who are probably more knowledgeable than many professional nutritionists. You should let them give you their opinion.

**fit2bOld** · 11-13-2012, 08:13 AM

I'm 5'10" 200 lbs not fat and over 50. There is a nutrition problem here. You shouldn't look like Santa on Test and Deca that is unless you were eating cookies and milk...
I'm with Honkey Kong hit the nutrition forum

**adamjames** · 11-13-2012, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by fit2bOld

I'm 5'10" 200 lbs not fat and over 50. There is a nutrition problem here. You shouldn't look like Santa on Test and Deca that is unless you were eating cookies and milk...
I'm with Honkey Kong hit the nutrition forum

**ScotchGuard02** · 11-13-2012, 09:05 AM

When you're cutting the diet will be just as important as the steroids . Test/Mast is a good combo.

**Sfla80** · 11-13-2012, 09:09 AM

Why EOD with two long esters?

I'm running same cycle without the oral.

Sorry op didn't mean to hijack just curious.

**kamojan** · 11-13-2012, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by fit2bOld

I'm 5'10" 200 lbs not fat and over 50. There is a nutrition problem here. You shouldn't look like Santa on Test and Deca that is unless you were eating cookies and milk...
I'm with Honkey Kong hit the nutrition forum

That came to my surprise as well, I do muay thai 4 times a week and play soccer the rest in addition to the weights.

I'll talk to the nutrition forum folk about the diet it is a big issue of mine

As for the cycle you guys approve?

**fit2bOld** · 11-13-2012, 09:33 AM

Cant approve the cycle, You haven't laid it out completely with dosages, clomid and HCG are not good for pct. HCG should be run on cycle. Add nolva to the clomid for pct.
As said before unless you get your nutrition straightened out is will be a disappointment and a waste of time and $$$.

**kamojan** · 11-13-2012, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by fit2bOld

Cant approve the cycle, You haven't laid it out completely with dosages, clomid and HCG are not good for pct. HCG should be run on cycle. Add nolva to the clomid for pct.
As said before unless you get your nutrition straightened out is will be a disappointment and a waste of time and $$$.

1 ml shots is 250mg/ml for test enan
And 100 mg/ml for the masteron