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    not quite at the BF i wanted, possible to cut on cycle?

    quick stats:
    24 years
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    187 pounds
    12% bf
    planning a cycle of Test E 450/week, got AI and PCT down that's not what I'm worried about at the moment
    So basically i had hoped to be at 10% bf by this time, i thought i almost was but i got it officially measured and its at 12% not 10, and it shows. I'm not as cut as I'd like to be starting this cycle, as i don't want to get much higher BF because my fat really has a tendency to accumulate around my pecs, and i know i would be bound to gain at least 1 or 2 percent on cycle. I would just say to hell with it and cut for another couple weeks then start the cycle, but I'm going on a month long trip with family and friends in exactly 12 weeks and 3 days from now, which i really can't be pinning myself on, and i also really don't want to wait till i get back from that.
    My question really is, would it be sound to start this cycle normally, and then 2 weeks in ( as opposed to at the start because I just came off 2 weeks of cycling clen ) take a 2 week hard cutting period in which i would up cardio to 4x a week high intensity, do a pyramiding cycle of clen, and go very low carbs 5 days a week with a ~600 Cal deficit, then last 2 days of the week re-feed.
    I haven't heard of anyone doing this, and I know i would be sacrificing some gains from the cycle, but is there any real reason why this would be a terrible idea? If it is, is there any way i can do this cycle and end with a lower or equal BF than i started with? My diet will be very clean the entire time.
    On a side note, i would be very carefully monitoring my blood pressure the entire time, especially while on clen also and would take necessary steps if it got too high.
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    More importantly what are your plans for PCT on this month long trip?

    Can you take the chems with you? What about diet and training, will you be able to keep it the same as when you where on cycle?

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    why not run the cycle--for 12 wks up to the trip? that way 2 weeks into your trip you can do PCT. (nada to worry about, as far a hiding what your doing)

    IMO i dont think its possible to survive on very low carbs while on gear. I know its possible, just doesnt seem realistic. If your gonna pyramid your macros--play with all three. Since your dropping carbs--youll have 2 areas to increase--pro and fat. i suggest thas what you do as its more possible.

    like taking your body into ketosis for those two weeks.

    in general, as long as your diet is clean, and you have good cardio to accompany its very possible to finish off at 9-10%-

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    yes, i can take my PCT stuff with me no problem (Nolva and Clomid)
    im going to do 2 weeks off everything, then two weeks of nolva40mg per day and clomid40mg/ day, one week of Nolva20mg/day and clomid40mg/day, then one week of just clomid40mg per day.
    On a side note, did my first pinning last night, which actually went alot better than i though it would, i absolutely hate pins but it was nothing, and i realized that i now have two more small questions. First, after i pinned, i had a fair amount of bleeding (like small paper cut status, not gushing or anything but certainly more than a drop) does this mean that the test came out with it? I injected on the outside part of my upper leg, and stuck the 1' needle all the way in. I also pulled for blood before pinning, and none came up (I only pulled enough for a small bubble to come up to check this, should i have done more?)
    Second, when should i start taking Arimidex ? Planning on running 0.5mg every other day throughout the cycle, adjusted or course if i feel its needed. Should i start taking it right now?
    trying to figure out why it wont let me post the rest of my reply, the filter keeps telling me tdere is something wrong with it, trying to find what word im using that is causing it
    realized it was the at symbols stopping me from posting.
    Last edited by smeeto; 11-15-2012 at 02:10 PM.

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    Start ldex first pin. .25mg not .50

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