Help with my tren/prop cycle...ai help

[spidartanks]

My planned cycle

29 yr old. 4th cycle. I ran tren Test before at 525prop. 525tren a week each (. 75ed)

Havn't cycled in 1.5 years. I stopped because I had back acne I hated.. I went on Accutane through dermatologist cleared up. I want to run light Accutane dose during cycle (not pharmacy grade unfortunately)
Got awesome results last time. super cut. Now with 3j diet on my side and andromed gear. I'm looking for better results.. Goal: lean bulk.

Training split:
Chest./tri
Back/bi
Shoulders/abs
Legs
Arms/abs
Rest (maybe cardio)
Rest

Gear: aka OJ (gf and I code word)
2 prop (100mg/ml)
6 trenbo test (120mg tren 60prop/ml)

Wk 1-10: tren 0.85mg ed (600/wk)
Wk 1-12: test prop 0.45 ed (300/wk)
5-7days after last pin start pct

*if libido needs I can bump test up seperate or bump tren from 600 to 700 increasing prop from 300 to 350/wk

Pct:
Hcg blast: 5000ui mix with 5 ml bac water. (enough for 5 1000ui eod pins?)
***Taken after last pin up to 4 days before first Serm..... Using prop how do I run this?

Nolva: start 5-7days after last prop injection at 40/40/20/20/20
Clomid: 5-7 days after last prop injection at 50/50/50/50
DAA - d- aspartic acid (test booster)


Anti Prolactin:
Prami: 0.125mg(1/8) to 0.5mg(1/2)
***thinking of taking ed 2-4hrs before bed but also reading about sides. May just have on hand in case and stick with aromasin during cycle.... Possibly Letrizole too....

Ai:
Aromasin 6.25ed (to start, will raise if issue occurs) taken from start through the end of pct.

Shit... Only have 90 6.25pills..enough beginning to end of 12wk cycle.
Not enough for pct.
Any suggestions with working in Letrizole? (worst case I can order more from andromed)

Letrizole: on hand in case I need more severe estrogen crushing power.
Side note: I do have a slight lump as of recent in my left nipple..never had any gyno issues from cycling before . finished last cycle a year and a half almost 2 years ago (tren and prop) Got it checked out at doctor he wasn't concerned but if I could fix the issue while on cycle that would be amazing. Any recommendations?)

Other support:
Acne support: Accutane at 20mg/day. (Will increase as necessary)
Also dish soap showers and tanning and I have a topical cream (forget name)
Liver support: Liv52.
Apple cider vinigar (skin help too)
Chlosterol support: lipid stabil
Hair care: Anti dht shampoo (dht growganics shampoo and Alpecin c shampoo) and
Rogaine 5 percent minoxidil

° supplements
Fish Oil pills
Multi vitamin
Creatine (assume I should take still)
Whey
Glutamine
Bcaa
Pre workout (C4 and white flood)

Diet: 3j......

Ready to kick aas... Ass

[ironbeck]

So your title is the question? I'm currently on a prop 200 eod, tren200 eod mast1.75 eod cycle and use letro .25 ed and its seems to be working well for me, almost no acne or nipple enlargement. I would be running hcg during cycle but seem to have a problem finding it at a decent priced.

[spidartanks]

great.thanks

i thought letro squashed nearly all estrogen and was good for repairing gyno.notvto run along side entire cycle (less gains)...
I was hoping i could run aromasin along side my cycle at a low dose as tren and prop doesnt aromatize a lot..

I was hoping to run letro at the early stages of my cycle at a low dose like your .25ed... Would a week or even 2 give noticible results (i would like to try and rid the slight lump that is there now)

anyone else with any advice here too

[ironbeck]

great.thanks

i thought letro squashed nearly all estrogen and was good for repairing gyno.notvto run along side entire cycle (less gains)...
I was hoping i could run aromasin along side my cycle at a low dose as tren and prop doesnt aromatize a lot..

I was hoping to run letro at the early stages of my cycle at a low dose like your .25ed... Would a week or even 2 give noticible results (i would like to try and rid the slight lump that is there now)

anyone else with any advice here too

You r right it does crush estrogen lvs and is used for gyno reversal, so you must use itsparingly and if you do, find your "sweet" spot when using. Everyone is diff right? don't want to crush your estro lvs I would try .25 eod and adjust accordingly, but if you have aromasin use it instead their is more "room" for use with this product and it wil work fine, I just got tired of going through multiple bottles and the letro when used properly can go a long way.

[spidartanks]

Ok sweet....thats perfect. Ill use aromasin and if it isnt doing the trick i have the option to go to something stronger like letro.
Thats what ill do.
Ill start aromasin at the 6.25ed for a week and bump it up to 12.5 if needed and see..like you say everyones body is diferent.
Cheers

[ironbeck]

Ok sweet....thats perfect. Ill use aromasin and if it isnt doing the trick i have the option to go to something stronger like letro.
Thats what ill do.
Ill start aromasin at the 6.25ed for a week and bump it up to 12.5 if needed and see..like you say everyones body is diferent.
Cheers

You had better double check on your aromasin dosages, I think they may be high, but not for certain, Have not used it in a while.
Can any one verify these dosages for aromasin use?

[spidartanks]

Ive read it is a higher dosage product.
Pills are in 6.25mg which are low dose. Others come in 25mg dosages

[stpete]

Start your PCT 3 days after last injection.

[Lunk1]

This needs some help IMO. I have questions if you would please?

1)why the blend? Can you get straight Prop and straight Tren A?

2) Why pin ED vs EOD?

3) Why are you not frontloading the 1st week of your PCT

4) Why are using HCG during PCT and not on cycle?

5) Why are you bumping your doses from last time?????

This will get us started.....

[MickeyKnox]

this needs some help imo. I have questions if you would please?

1)why the blend? Can you get straight prop and straight tren a?

2) why pin ed vs eod?

3) why are you not frontloading the 1st week of your pct

4) why are using hcg during pct and not on cycle?

5) why are you bumping your doses from last time?????

This will get us started.....

x2

[spidartanks]

[QUOTE=Lunk1;6271480]This needs some help IMO. I have questions if you would please?

1)why the blend? Can you get straight Prop and straight Tren A?
I purchasd them seperate last time and i came across the blend this time to try out...i purchasd seperste prop if i need to increase test without tren.
I think i want to try less test morr tren hoping for less acne sides hopefully.
Everyones body is different and i guess it doesnt hurt to learn mine if i have the right equipment on hand right?
also buying 180mg/ml strength means less oil to inject?

2) Why pin ED vs EOD?
I figured keep blood levels super stsbil...i had no sweats and sleeping issues before.
Also pinning isnt that bad lol. Glutes. Quads and shoulders.

3) Why are you not frontloading the 1st week of your PCT
So 3 days after last pin i start pct.
Can you suggest a pct program including nolva/clomid and hcg

4) Why are using HCG during PCT and not on cycle?
This i am not sure how to use that is what i am looking for help with. Id appreciate suggestions please
I have 5000ui. From research i did doing a blast at the end or a small does throughout are both productive.
Last time i ran tren prop my balls seemed to not be too affected.


5) Why are you bumping your doses from last time?????
I dont want to bump my doses...i want to run around the same tren with less test.
Having the blen means a tiny increase in tren which i saw no harm in.

This will get us started....


Any help especially pct and hcg id appreciate

[Lunk1]

[QUOTE=spidartanks;6272281]

This needs some help IMO. I have questions if you would please?

1)why the blend? Can you get straight Prop and straight Tren A?
I purchasd them seperate last time and i came across the blend this time to try out...i purchasd seperste prop if i need to increase test without tren.
I think i want to try less test morr tren hoping for less acne sides hopefully.
Everyones body is different and i guess it doesnt hurt to learn mine if i have the right equipment on hand right? Not the best attitude when using AAS!
also buying 180mg/ml strength means less oil to inject?

2) Why pin ED vs EOD?
I figured keep blood levels super stsbil...i had no sweats and sleeping issues before.
Also pinning isnt that bad lol. Glutes. Quads and shoulders. While you are right about blood levels, most will tell you they noticed no diff. between ED vs EOD. If you do choose an ED protocal I would suggest adding at least one more injection site. Lats are easy!

3) Why are you not frontloading the 1st week of your PCT
So 3 days after last pin i start pct. YES, 3 days is correct!
Can you suggest a pct program including nolva/clomid and hcg Clomid 100/50/50/50, Nolva 40/20/20/20

4) Why are using HCG during PCT and not on cycle?
This i am not sure how to use that is what i am looking for help with. Id appreciate suggestions please
I have 5000ui. From research i did doing a blast at the end or a small does throughout are both productive.
Last time i ran tren prop my balls seemed to not be too affected. Running HCG through cycle will make recovery easier, 250IU X twice a week!


5) Why are you bumping your doses from last time?????
I dont want to bump my doses...i want to run around the same tren with less test.
Having the blen means a tiny increase in tren which i saw no harm in.
No huge harm, just another reason I hate blends. It is harder to control the dosage that I want with blend compounds
This will get us started.....


Any help especially pct and hcg id appreciate

This cycle should be 8 weeks, after that there is a diminishing of gains and a risk of increased sides inculding more difficult recovery
Get some Prami or Caber and keep it on hand incase there are any Prolactin related sides
Run your Aro at 12.5 EOD as an AI although I prefer Adex for short esters if you have it, run it at .25 EOD to start!

[spidartanks]

[QUOTE=Lunk1;6272394]

This cycle should be 8 weeks, after that there is a diminishing of gains and a risk of increased sides inculding more difficult recovery
Get some Prami or Caber and keep it on hand incase there are any Prolactin related sides
Run your Aro at 12.5 EOD as an AI although I prefer Adex for short esters if you have it, run it at .25 EOD to start!

Thanks for the great help..ill definantly take it all in.

I have prami on hand. Letro too
Aromasin im running 6.25 ed


you suggest 250iu twice a week with no blast then. (i hsve 5000ui is all)
250twice a week 10 weeks is perfect

[Lunk1]

No blast of HCG needed.