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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post

    Whats up Doc? Yup put your arm up over your head and come in at an angle from the front. They take a load of volume and is pain free!
    Hey, how's it going?

    That makes more sense than what I was picturing. I was wondering how someone could reach their "wings", the lower part of the lats, which just seemed like a really risky place to inject.

    But I still get nervous with chest injections even, which is silly. Bc if you use a 25 gauge needle or smaller, even if you puncture the lung (which I'm not recommending, and is pretty hard through the chest unless you're very thin) it's extremely unlikely that it would cause a pneumothorax ("popped lung"). Despite this though I would still use a 1" needle when doing chest injections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicDoc

    Hey, how's it going?

    That makes more sense than what I was picturing. I was wondering how someone could reach their "wings", the lower part of the lats, which just seemed like a really risky place to inject.

    But I still get nervous with chest injections even, which is silly. Bc if you use a 25 gauge needle or smaller, even if you puncture the lung (which I'm not recommending, and is pretty hard through the chest unless you're very thin) it's extremely unlikely that it would cause a pneumothorax ("popped lung"). Despite this though I would still use a 1" needle when doing chest injections.
    To hit your lower lats, you either need good reach, or a partner!
    I love chest injections, I use a 1" pin and go maybe 1/3 to 1/2 in. Depending on which way I'm injecting, I sometimes go right it, other times I go from the side. I really dislike bicep!!

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    Bicep is my favorite, especially with prop! I otherwise hate prop bc it makes me sick, flu-like for a few days, and gives me a lot of local swelling. But if I inject about 0.25ml in each bi, the local swelling just makes my bi's bigger and 0.25ml x 2 of prop at 100mg/ml doesn't make me too sick.

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    Omg I think it's official...my left arm will fall off today! I swear I must just suck at pinning. I have the same little football shaped swelling area on my shoulder that I get on my glutes. I can't figure out if its from me me maybe moving the needle in my arm or it it's the tren or test. I try to be as steady as possible. I've even cut back on aspirating as far as how much I pull back on the plunge. All I know is it hurts like a biotch and I'm sure it's mostly from it being virgin muscle and I can take it and work through it but this swelling pain added to it sucks! Any advice on what I may be doing wrong? Thighs are no problem what's so ever. Never any swelling or anything. Only bad thing was hitting a vein and blood shooting out...once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxon0408 View Post
    Omg I think it's official...my left arm will fall off today! I swear I must just suck at pinning. I have the same little football shaped swelling area on my shoulder that I get on my glutes. I can't figure out if its from me me maybe moving the needle in my arm or it it's the tren or test. I try to be as steady as possible. I've even cut back on aspirating as far as how much I pull back on the plunge. All I know is it hurts like a biotch and I'm sure it's mostly from it being virgin muscle and I can take it and work through it but this swelling pain added to it sucks! Any advice on what I may be doing wrong? Thighs are no problem what's so ever. Never any swelling or anything. Only bad thing was hitting a vein and blood shooting out...once.
    Get those 25G...hell I draw with 22G, no way I want to stick with that thing! Are you pushing in slowly or jabbing? At an angle or straight on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    Get those 25G...hell I draw with 22G, no way I want to stick with that thing! Are you pushing in slowly or jabbing? At an angle or straight on?
    I went straight in right in the middle of my shoulder. Flexed and found the muscle and went in there. I sing happy birthday per ml. Gay but that's what I do. It didn't go in any faster than my thighs or glutes. I pull with an 18g haha.

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    And I have 25g 1" coming right now haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxon0408 View Post
    And I have 25g 1" coming right now haha.
    I mean are you jabbing the pin in or pushing it slowly in...?

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    I push it in pretty slow. I'm scared to jab it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxon0408 View Post
    I push it in pretty slow. I'm scared to jab it.
    Sounds like your doing everything well...try that 25G and see if that helps~!

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    Yeah the only thing I can think of is I'm not being steady enough. Or I just have bad luck and I'm hitting something. Either way I'm switching needles ASAP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxon0408
    Helpful info on delt injection. 1" or 1.5"?
    I like 1.5 everywhere.... I want to make sure I'm deep enough bc sometimes when I use 1" some leaks out or goes under my skin or even just doesn't seem to absorb as well as deeper shots do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxon0408
    Also it would be 1.5ml with 22g. I've heard this may be too big for delts.
    That's fine.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    No calves...once was enough! Lats baby!
    Ya I hate calves.... I always hit veins there

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicDoc
    Do you really do your lats or jk? It seems scary and difficult to reach back there. I don't think I am even capable of reaching my own lats.
    Ya I can't reach my lats but this seems interesting... Can you elaborate

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    There is a plethora of good info in this post. I have been researching IM injection topic extensively the past few weeks due to PIP. I'm interested in trying the ventrogluteal site. However, I have been unable to educate myself to locate this site based the information available. Does anyone have an easy way to locate the site for self injection. It seems that most of the descriptions I find are for nurses administering to patients? I do not have a medical background so I don't know how to locate greater trochanter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BluPhin View Post
    There is a plethora of good info in this post. I have been researching IM injection topic extensively the past few weeks due to PIP. I'm interested in trying the ventrogluteal site. However, I have been unable to educate myself to locate this site based the information available. Does anyone have an easy way to locate the site for self injection. It seems that most of the descriptions I find are for nurses administering to patients? I do not have a medical background so I don't know how to locate greater trochanter.
    I know this is a favorite site of Atomini so perhaps ask him. I have never attempted it as it seems rather samll will little room for error.

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    That is exactly why I have been apprehensive to try it. It seems like you are shooting for an area the size of a silver dollar and if you miss you hit bone ;/ I will hit up Atomini. Thanks, bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BluPhin View Post
    That is exactly why I have been apprehensive to try it. It seems like you are shooting for an area the size of a silver dollar and if you miss you hit bone ;/ I will hit up Atomini. Thanks, bro.
    Thats my take on it as well.

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    Anyone ever inject and the next day the inj site is sore, but not like pip sore. And then u start pressing on it and its kinda hard and if u press with two fingers in an alternating fashion u can hear liquid squishing around in there. U think I inj into scar tissue? Or u think its an abscess? I recall the needle having a bit of a difficulty piercing the flesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tron3219 View Post
    Anyone ever inject and the next day the inj site is sore, but not like pip sore. And then u start pressing on it and its kinda hard and if u press with two fingers in an alternating fashion u can hear liquid squishing around in there. U think I inj into scar tissue? Or u think its an abscess? I recall the needle having a bit of a difficulty piercing the flesh.

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    Where is injection site?

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    I have to put my ear close to hear the squishy.

    It's not red or excessively swollen, so I think I just injected into scar tissue.

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    Hard lump on injection site is typically one of three causes: abscess , subcutaneous delivery or scar tissue delivery. With abscess, it would be very painful and hot to the touch, not to mention you would probably have a fever. It is definitely not subcutaneous in the delt. So, you have a lump in scar tissue which will subside in couple of days/week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BluPhin
    Hard lump on injection site is typically one of three causes: abscess , subcutaneous delivery or scar tissue delivery. With abscess, it would be very painful and hot to the touch, not to mention you would probably have a fever. It is definitely not subcutaneous in the delt. So, you have a lump in scar tissue which will subside in couple of days/week.
    Sweet, what I figured, just wanted to double check my diagnosis. And temp is 97.6 scar tissue it is lol

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    I'm getting the same thing every time I inject into delts. It swells up somewhere around the injection site and gets red (no liquid sounds) but not at the injection site itself. I even switched to a 25g 1" needle and it was worse this time in both delts. I also got cold sweats and flu like symptoms. The syringe itself seems to want to stick when the gear is in it and not slide smooth but I still manage to pump it in smooth. I have 6 injection sites and I started yesterday on my thighs for the 3rd time rotating to them on this cycle and I'm still having next day pains. It's starting to get on my nerves because by now it should be smooth going. But basically my point is I'm having the same symptoms just no liquid sloshing sound. Ive been reading and it could be due to the mixing agent in the gear mixed with poor injection technique. I don't know either way but I stay pretty steady and still have issues.

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    How long does swelling/pain last?

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    ^^^ mine usually lasts about 3,4 sometimes 5 days before it is fully gone. My left delt was done 5 days ago on the 24th and its still a little red. No swelling or pain just a light shade of red.

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