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    Lightbulb Second Cycle........NEED YOUR ATTENTION PLZ(Revised)!

    Hey guys,

    I've chosen my second cycle as below: but please help me with the dosages, duration and anything that you think should be corrected...especially PCT

    week1-10 Test-E 250mg/week
    week1-8 Deca 400mg/week
    week1-5 Dianabol 20mg/day
    week3-5 Tamoxifen
    week7-10 Proviron
    PCT:
    week12-15 HCG 5000iu/week , Tamoxifen , Clomid

    I'm currently 85kg with 1.80cm height. My first cycle was Test P 300mg/week with anavar but it was not satisfactory!

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    At 22, You are to young to be doing a cycle... Especially like this! Deca is not a toy and needs to be used with lots of knowledge...

    How long was your first cycle. What was your pct?

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    Additionally, you use of HCG , Tamox and Proviron are way off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chx beach 79 View Post
    At 22, You are to young to be doing a cycle... Especially like this! Deca is not a toy and needs to be used with lots of knowledge...

    How long was your first cycle. What was your pct?
    I'm 26...
    So you mean this is a strong cycle?
    Previous cycle was for 8 weeks. and pct was a single shot of hcg5000 and tomoxifen for 10 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stpete View Post
    Additionally, you use of HCG, Tamox and Proviron are way off.
    What do you mean?

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    Your profile says your 22, so one of these values are deceitful. A simple test only cycle would do with an AI, HCG and proper PCT. Head back to the drawing board...

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    This is my brother's account! No need to deceive anyone!

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    You need to do more reading, 5000IU per week of HCG is crazy. Deca is ran too short. PCT is awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parsa View Post
    This is my brother's account! No need to deceive anyone!
    This isn't Blockbuster, make your own account - it takes two seconds. Then take the advice of the members here and go back and learn what and why to use an AI, hCG and the correct PCT. Otherwise, all you're doing is putting together numbers and names but not educating yourself about AAS.

    Read and learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parsa
    I'm 26...
    So you mean this is a strong cycle?
    Previous cycle was for 8 weeks. and pct was a single shot of hcg5000 and tomoxifen for 10 days.
    No the cycle looks like a train wreck!!! I was saying the deca is a strong compound, and you need to do a lot of research on how it reacts in the body... Also research how you are going to have to change your diet while on it...

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    As far as i've read even cycles on this site recommend such cycles for novices. even with higher dosages and longer duration! About PCT yes i have so many problems and that's why i'm asking you...thanks bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

    This isn't Blockbuster, make your own account - it takes two seconds. [/URL]
    Ha ha ha ha nice one Mickey made me lol

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    No one to help me?
    Correct the cycle plz... Correct the PCT plz

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    whats your stats and goals??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parsa View Post
    No one to help me?
    Correct the cycle plz... Correct the PCT plz
    Most of the guys on this forum are assholes man...I'll correct your cycle for you.


    Week 1-10 READ about AAS/PCT
    Week 1-20 PERFECT diet/Put together a cycle
    Week 20-21 post your cycle on the forums along with your stats and a sample of your diet for critique.
    Week 21-26 take the advice from the people on the forums and re-educate yourself on the areas they deem you to be lacking in.Then decide what you intend to order and make your purchase.
    Week 26-30 pray your source isn't bogus.





    Let me know if you need anymore help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perseverance1 View Post
    Most of the guys on this forum are assholes man...I'll correct your cycle for you.


    Week 1-10 READ about AAS/PCT
    Week 1-20 PERFECT diet/Put together a cycle
    Week 20-21 post your cycle on the forums along with your stats and a sample of your diet for critique.
    Week 21-26 take the advice from the people on the forums and re-educate yourself on the areas they deem you to be lacking in.Then decide what you intend to order and make your purchase.
    Week 26-30 pray your source isn't bogus.





    Let me know if you need anymore help.
    lol perfect cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perseverance1 View Post
    Most of the guys on this forum are assholes man...I'll correct your cycle for you.


    Week 1-10 READ about AAS/PCT
    Week 1-20 PERFECT diet/Put together a cycle
    Week 20-21 post your cycle on the forums along with your stats and a sample of your diet for critique.
    Week 21-26 take the advice from the people on the forums and re-educate yourself on the areas they deem you to be lacking in.Then decide what you intend to order and make your purchase.
    Week 26-30 pray your source isn't bogus.





    Let me know if you need anymore help.
    I couldn't have said this any better myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kronik420 View Post
    whats your stats and goals??
    I'm 26
    85 kg
    height 1.80 cm
    I'm looking for some 10kg mass...

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    Youve done zero research and haven't put any time in yourself. No one will help you unless you show this community that you are willing to to put an effort into reading the links and information provided to you in this thread. You get out what you put in.

    Begging for answers to the most basic questions will not generate a response, nor will it provoke you to think and absorb any information.

    Im not being mean Parsa, but you need to read, read, and then read some more. Youre a long way away from using AAS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perseverance1 View Post
    Most of the guys on this forum are assholes man...I'll correct your cycle for you.


    Week 1-10 READ about AAS/PCT
    Week 1-20 PERFECT diet/Put together a cycle
    Week 20-21 post your cycle on the forums along with your stats and a sample of your diet for critique.
    Week 21-26 take the advice from the people on the forums and re-educate yourself on the areas they deem you to be lacking in.Then decide what you intend to order and make your purchase.
    Week 26-30 pray your source isn't bogus.





    Let me know if you need anymore help.

    This is correcting his cycle? You said less than we did!

    OP, why are you using your brothers account? Lying about your age or anything else isn't needed here. As a matter of fact, it's the fastest way to keep us from help you. Now, if you do some more research, especially where your HCG and PCT are concerned, you'll see what i'm talking about. HCG is typically ran 250iu's twice a week to PCT. Hit the PCT Forum to check out proper use of your Tamox and Clomid. 3 compounds is a little much for second cycle. I too am interested in your first cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perseverance1

    Most of the guys on this forum are assholes man...I'll correct your cycle for you.

    Week 1-10 READ about AAS/PCT
    Week 1-20 PERFECT diet/Put together a cycle
    Week 20-21 post your cycle on the forums along with your stats and a sample of your diet for critique.
    Week 21-26 take the advice from the people on the forums and re-educate yourself on the areas they deem you to be lacking in.Then decide what you intend to order and make your purchase.
    Week 26-30 pray your source isn't bogus.

    Let me know if you need anymore help.
    Lol agreed except the assholes bit lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsiv View Post
    Lol agreed except the assholes bit lol
    I was being facetious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perseverance1

    I was being facetious
    Ha ha ha I got it good cycle by the way

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    This isn't Blockbuster, make your own account - it takes two seconds. Then take the advice of the members here and go back and learn what and why to use an AI, hCG and the correct PCT. Otherwise, all you're doing is putting together numbers and names but not educating yourself about AAS.

    Read and learn.

    Educational Threads

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    HCG FAQ

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...Pregnyl%29-FAQ

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    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-AI-Definition
    Thank you for your useful links.
    Hcg FAQ says that Hcg should be used 4 weeks before your cycle ends. But the PCT provided by steroid .com says it should be used 2weeks(for example) after your last shot! OK! Which one is true? I've seen this contrast alot before...
    And also it says a minimum of 10,000 ius should be used. So is 2500ius per every 5 days for 2 weeks enough for my cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parsa View Post
    Thank you for your useful links.
    Hcg FAQ says that Hcg should be used 4 weeks before your cycle ends. But the PCT provided by steroid .com says it should be used 2weeks(for example) after your last shot! OK! Which one is true? I've seen this contrast alot before...
    And also it says a minimum of 10,000 ius should be used. So is 2500ius per every 5 days for 2 weeks enough for my cycle?
    id use it starting in week 1, 500IU/week (split 250IU 2x a week), and end it just before you start PCT.

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    [QUOTE=MickeyKnox;6272346]This isn't Blockbuster, make your own account - it takes two seconds. Then take the advice of the members here and go back and learn what and why to use an AI, hCG and the correct PCT. Otherwise, all you're doing is putting together numbers and names but not educating yourself about AAS.



    Quote Originally Posted by Parsa View Post
    This is my brother's account! No need to deceive anyone!
    Although it seems to not be listed I do believe it is against the rules to use someone else's account so as said PLEASE make your own account.

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    What about my new HCG ??!!

    week 4 and 8: 250iu 2x per week
    week 13: 4 shot of 1000iu every 3 days

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parsa View Post
    What about my new HCG ??!!

    week 4 and 8: 250iu 2x per week
    week 13: 4 shot of 1000iu every 3 days
    Quote Originally Posted by kronik420 View Post
    id use it starting in week 1, 500IU/week (split 250IU 2x a week), and end it just before you start PCT.
    ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kronik420 View Post
    id use it starting in week 1, 500IU/week (split 250IU 2x a week), and end it just before you start PCT.
    Yea thank u bro i just wanted to hear others ideas too.
    My cycle is 10 weeks and pct will start at 13th week. You mean that we should use hcg from the beginning till week 13? and the pct will be only nolvadex and clomid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parsa View Post
    Yea thank u bro i just wanted to hear others ideas too.
    My cycle is 10 weeks and pct will start at 13th week. You mean that we should use hcg from the beginning till week 13? and the pct will be only nolvadex and clomid?
    yea..

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    No other ideas please?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kronik420 View Post
    id use it starting in week 1, 500IU/week (split 250IU 2x a week), and end it just before you start PCT.
    This ^^

    Quote Originally Posted by Parsa View Post
    Yea thank u bro i just wanted to hear others ideas too.
    My cycle is 10 weeks and pct will start at 13th week. You mean that we should use hcg from the beginning till week 13? and the pct will be only nolvadex and clomid?
    Yes.

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    OK thank you. Would such PCT work for all cycles or this is suitable only for this cycle?

    ...And one last question...

    Isn't it better to also take proviron from the beginning?
    Isn't it better to also take nolvadex from the beginning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parsa View Post
    OK thank you. Would such PCT work for all cycles or this is suitable only for this cycle? The PCT recommend is a standard that will work with most cycles.

    ...And one last question...

    Isn't it better to also take proviron from the beginning? I dont use this. It weak and not worth it imho. Get a real AI.
    Isn't it better to also take nolvadex from the beginning? Not unless youre sensitive to gynecomastia.
    Reds..

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    Thank you Micky. What do you mean with getting a real AI? You mean that for example Aromasin or Arimidex work better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parsa View Post
    Thank you Micky. What do you mean with getting a real AI? You mean that for example Aromasin or Arimidex work better?
    correct

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    Is there anyway to combat with the depression Deca makes?
    Last edited by Parsa; 11-29-2012 at 11:08 AM.

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