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    sex life and steroids!!

    i will start my first ever cycle in a week.I am 23,191lbs and 14-15%bodyfat!!

    but i have a question in form of a situation,suppose person X has test level 100 and he starts a cycle+pct+hcg everything perfect!! And now after his PCT will his TEST level will become again 100?? or 80?90?95?? overall what i mean,do we have to sacrifice something for bigger muscles in future?? maybe i am sounding stupid but doing steroids is a serious decision and there is no turning back!!

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    You should really do a lot more research before you start...I can tell I probably knew 100x more about AAS than you when I started my first cycle and still many of the veterans didn't feel like I was ready. Start by reading all of the sticky threads in this sub forum. Feel free to ask specific questions here. Good luck!

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    Perseverance good info you gave him.. Honeyking for everything you do there are symptoms and side effects what you have to do is make a decision once you know what you are risking if I take tylenol I know that I have a chance of getting ulcers or intestinal bleeing its side effects from the drug so find out the aas you want to take read up on there side effects and make your decision as a 23 year old man..
    Also how long have you been in the gym??? What does youe diet look like and what are you trying to accomplish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perseverance1 View Post
    You should really do a lot more research before you start...I can tell I probably knew 100x more about AAS than you when I started my first cycle and still many of the veterans didn't feel like I was ready. Start by reading all of the sticky threads in this sub forum. Feel free to ask specific questions here. Good luck!
    i have done hell lot of research but i just wana ask the experienced people,who are on steroids for a long time and wana know howz they feel now?? sex power?? sperm count?? when they are not on steroids!

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    Quote Originally Posted by honeyking
    i will start my first ever cycle in a week.I am 23,191lbs and 14-15%bodyfat!!

    but i have a question in form of a situation,suppose person X has test level 100 and he starts a cycle+pct+hcg everything perfect!! And now after his PCT will his TEST level will become again 100?? or 80?90?95?? overall what i mean,do we have to sacrifice something for bigger muscles in future?? maybe i am sounding stupid but doing steroids is a serious decision and there is no turning back!!
    At a young age like 23 you are more likely to damage your system. Save your stuff for a couple years at least. And be much more prepared physically and knowledgeable about how to do it safely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by realgear View Post
    Perseverance good info you gave him.. Honeyking for everything you do there are symptoms and side effects what you have to do is make a decision once you know what you are risking if I take tylenol I know that I have a chance of getting ulcers or intestinal bleeing its side effects from the drug so find out the aas you want to take read up on there side effects and make your decision as a 23 year old man..
    Also how long have you been in the gym??? What does youe diet look like and what are you trying to accomplish?
    my diet is good and its been 5years i am working out seriously and have lost 66lbs all natural and gained about 20lbs muscle after that!!

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    My sperm count is non existent. Barely any fluid and its thick. Moneyshots are not fun anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEOINAGE View Post
    At a young age like 23 you are more likely to damage your system. Save your stuff for a couple years at least. And be much more prepared physically and knowledgeable about how to do it safely.
    just tell me one thing,if we compare testosterone level reports of two people,one is non steroid user and other is a steroid user.what will be the difference??

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    Quote Originally Posted by honeyking

    just tell me one thing,if we compare testosterone level reports of two people,one is non steroid user and other is a steroid user.what will be the difference??
    Varies man. U can have someone with naturally high or low levels prior steroid use . There isn't just a set number everyone has

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    I think the question you should be asking at your age is "will my natural production of Testosterone ever come back to 100% or do I have to do TRT for the rest of my life?" This may seem a little extreme but steroids are powerful and you never know how your body will react until you try it. Once you find out it may be too late. Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honeyking View Post
    i will start my first ever cycle in a week.I am 23,191lbs and 14-15%bodyfat!!

    but i have a question in form of a situation,suppose person X has test level 100 and he starts a cycle+pct+hcg everything perfect!! And now after his PCT will his TEST level will become again 100?? or 80?90?95?? overall what i mean,do we have to sacrifice something for bigger muscles in future?? maybe i am sounding stupid but doing steroids is a serious decision and there is no turning back!!
    There are risks associated with AAS usage. Damaging your HPTA and having your test levels remain lower or non existant is one of the biggest. Will this happen to you? Maybe! The fact that your endocrine systemis most likely still developing does increase your risk of not being able to reach full development!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02 View Post
    I think the question you should be asking at your age is "will my natural production of Testosterone ever come back to 100% or do I have to do TRT for the rest of my life?" This may seem a little extreme but steroids are powerful and you never know how your body will react until you try it. Once you find out it may be too late. Just a thought.
    ohh yeah thats what i mean!! i wasnt able to explain what i wana ask!

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    Quote Originally Posted by honeyking View Post
    my diet is good and its been 5years i am working out seriously and have lost 66lbs all natural and gained about 20lbs muscle after that!!
    The question is if you are getting these results already, why add aas to the mix? The only reason I made the choice to add them was because I had completely plateaued. At 23 you should stick with natty.

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    ScotchGuard02 thats why I love you bro you get right to the point and stop the stupid questions. so 100 85 wtf is that read this just a little info to help you out since you have been reading and studying this stuff. A typical normal male testosterone level range given is 260 -1080 ng/dl as (which corresponds to about 8.8 - 36.7 nmol/l)

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    i am very horny guy lol,horny 24/7 think about sex all the ****ing time,so i just very little concern about my natural test prob after steroids !

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    Wait until you are 25 then. Less risk than now

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    Quote Originally Posted by honeyking View Post
    i am very horny guy lol,horny 24/7 think about sex all the ****ing time,so i just very little concern about my natural test prob after steroids !
    Bro...I'm almost 40 and even off cycle I think about sex so often that I forget to go to work lol. The reality is that more than just labido can be damaged by AAS use AT ANY AGE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by senorrebo View Post
    The question is if you are getting these results already, why add aas to the mix? The only reason I made the choice to add them was because I had completely plateaued. At 23 you should stick with natty.
    bro its been 1.5years i am not able to break the plateau,tried everything diff diets,workouts etc and i am thinking about steroids because the hardwork i am putting in from the last 1.5years,its not rewarding me anymore and when you see newbie in gym with no base growing like hell in there teens(i know they are assholes and i shdnt think about them) but its nightmare when a 17year newbie has bigger bicep then yours!! lol

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    I agree with all advices given here , wait till ur 25 at least and when ur going to have ur first cycle consider all possibilities , i 2 did cycles basic ones ( dbol and test e ) and done pct perfectly hcg was included and i can assure u ( now after 5 months clean )that is my sex drive is much less than before i go through any cycle , i hope my info was helpful

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    well guys thankyou for your support and i really appreciate that and i got my answer that Natural T-production after doing steroids varies person to person!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yahaer View Post
    I agree with all advices given here , wait till ur 25 at least and when ur going to have ur first cycle consider all possibilities , i 2 did cycles basic ones ( dbol and test e ) and done pct perfectly hcg was included and i can assure u ( now after 5 months clean )that is my sex drive is much less than before i go through any cycle , i hope my info was helpful
    Did you see a doctor?

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    Post up in the nutrition section. The best workouts can be hindered by not eating consistent good calories everyday

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick4588 View Post
    Post up in the nutrition section. The best workouts can be hindered by not eating consistent good calories everyday
    yeah bro,will do my homework again!! :P and i love this website <3

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    You should get blood work HonkeyKong before you start that way you will know for sure after. Better yet wait a while but the. Still get blood work before starting the cycle.

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    Honey king, I would heed the advice and wait. I am also 23, and I have a thread over in the TRT section now. My test levels are so low, I have zero sex drive, erectile problems etc.
    Just my 2cents.

    18month plateu? You're doing something wrong, and STERIODS won't help you. Post up your diet and training in the relevant forums.
    Last edited by krugerr; 11-24-2012 at 01:46 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick4588 View Post
    Post up in the nutrition section. The best workouts can be hindered by not eating consistent good calories everyday
    If I could rep this man i would

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    My balls are the size of acorns and hard my biceps are thats all anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krugerr View Post
    Honey king, I would heed the advice and wait. I am also 23, and I have a thread over in the TRT section now. My test levels are so low, I have zero sex drive, erectile problems etc.
    Just my 2cents.

    18month plateu? You're doing something wrong, and STERIODS won't help you. Post up your diet and training in the relevant forums.
    ohhh ****!!! dude are ****ing kidding me?? :O :O did you see a doc?? having tribulus or DAA etc ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by honeyking View Post
    ohhh ****!!! dude are ****ing kidding me?? :O :O did you see a doc?? having tribulus or DAA etc ???
    I can't take this guy seriously for some reason.

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    OP, you need to learn how to eat, you can easily break this 'plateau' with a good diet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BallerBoi View Post
    I can't take this guy seriously for some reason.
    get out then! :| :| i dint invited you..

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    Quote Originally Posted by honeyking View Post
    bro its been 1.5years i am not able to break the plateau,tried everything diff diets,workouts etc and i am thinking about steroids because the hardwork i am putting in from the last 1.5years,its not rewarding me anymore and when you see newbie in gym with no base growing like hell in there teens(i know they are assholes and i shdnt think about them) but its nightmare when a 17year newbie has bigger bicep then yours!! lol
    the more inshape and bigger you get the gains will come slower. There is no way you are plateaued at 23.
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    hmm will change my diet and workout and will wait for some more time before starting anything!

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