I have done my research and want someone to check my work... 1st cycle plan...

[Adrew77]

I’m currently 35yrs old. I have been an athlete my whole life and been training for sports and recreation for over the past 20years… I played football at the division one level and have continued to train and diet since hanging up my cleats. I have only supplemented with creatine, protein and vitamins and have yet try anything in the way of AAS supplementation. Mostly because we got tested by the NCAA and also because I hadn’t really need it and/or done any serious research on them. As I am getting older I am reaching more and more palates in the gym. I seem like I have lost the bounce in my legs and feel like I strain my calf’s every other time I go for a run or train hard. I also just can’t seem to get rid of the extra fat around my mid section. I always had to carry extra weight when I played football. Now an athletic beach body is all I need and am going for these days… With that said I began my research and have come up with the following cycle plan including aromatase inhibitors to fight the potential side effects and PCT to help me restore my natural levels and come off my cycle. I would like any input you can offer as far as dosing and the supplements I have chosen. If you have any personal experience please feel free to let me know. Also if you see any changes I could make that would be greatly appreciated.

The following is the plan that I am considering:

Testosterone Propionate 500mg/week 12 weeks
(aprox 150mg every other day)

Arimidex 1mg tablet/ every other day 12 weeks

PCT starting 3 days after my last injection

Nolvadex 40mg/week 2 weeks
20mg/week 2 weeks
10mg/week 2 weeks
(I have found Nolvadex in 20mg tablets, what is the best way to dose this?)

HCG 500 iu/day 10days


Please let me know what you think… I have chosen Test P because of its short ester and high potency of actually testosterone . I also wanted to stay away from any of the other supplements that were progestins due to the side effects… I’d consider Deca but then again I am only looking for overall physical fitness, physic and strength. I dent feel it is necessary… I am concerned about the side effects with any of the supplements that is why I feel like I have tried to cover all my bases with the AI’s and PCT plan. Please let me know what you think and if you have any experience with this type of cycle. I appreciate you input.

Sincerely,

[OdinsOtherSon]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...cles-Look-here

[Bio-Active]

Agree your PCT is week and hcg should be run during the cycle.

[OdinsOtherSon]

Bro, I'm not flaming here, but if you have done research...you need to do some more. I sincerely don't want to see anyone mess themselves up and based on what a legit first cycle should like, the one you laid out is a mess. The help is here for sure. With what jim230027 said, work on PCT protocols and HCG is WAY outta wack. So you already have your Arimidex ? If not, check out the sponsor at the top of the page...ar-r . Their product is GTG and easily used/dosed. You can also pick up all your PCT needs there as well.

[Bio-Active]

Arimidex 1mg tablet/ every other day 12 weeks What does this mean? What are your tabs dosed at? Hopefully 25 mg? If they are 1mg tabs that is way to much for most.

[OdinsOtherSon]

jim, you mean 0.25mg, right? I was wondering this too. That's why I asked if he had it already and suggested ar-r .

[Bio-Active]

Yes sorry my bad!! .25 mg i must be getting old!! lol

jim, you mean 0.25mg, right?

[OdinsOtherSon]

^^ I feel your pain man! LOL

[stpete]

Pinning the prop for 12 weeks is probably going to get old real fast. Especially for a first timer. I'd go w/test e as you only have to pin that twice a week.

[Adrew77]

I have not purchased anything yet... but yes that was a typo the Arimidex I was considering was one 0.25mg tab every other day...

I have read articles on both sides when dealing with PCT... From what I have seen the information suggests that Nolvadex 20-40mg/day dosed off over four weeks is the better choice when compared to Clomid at 150mg/day dosed off over 4 weeks. I haven’t read anything that states both are needed. Is this something you have experienced from personal use?

Also from what I have read HCG stimulates natural Test by mimicking the Luteinizing Hormone (LH) and also kick starts the hypothalamic pituitary testicular axis (HPTA) So if I am supplementing with Test Prop or any Test why would I want to initiate the natural stimulation until I was done supplementing and ready to come off???

[MickeyKnox]

I have not purchased anything yet... but yes that was a typo the Arimidex I was considering was one 0.25mg tab every other day...

I have read articles on both sides when dealing with PCT... From what I have seen the information suggests that Nolvadex 20-40mg/day dosed off over four weeks is the better choice when compared to Clomid at 150mg/day dosed off over 4 weeks. I haven’t read anything that states both are needed. Is this something you have experienced from personal use?

Also from what I have read HCG stimulates natural Test by mimicking the Luteinizing Hormone (LH) and also kick starts the hypothalamic pituitary testicular axis (HPTA) So if I am supplementing with Test Prop or any Test why would I want to initiate the natural stimulation until I was done supplementing and ready to come off???

Please take a peek at the Test Enth cycle contained in this thread. Also take a look at the PCT protocols to get a better feel of what they typically look like. 150mg /day Clomid is waaay too high imho.

Most Common Beginners Cycles

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs



And here are some answers to your hCG questions.

Why HCG is So Important

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UIlhVWfX_ft

HCG FAQ

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...Pregnyl%29-FAQ