Ultimate Steroids Cycles

**rickard345** · 11-25-2012, 04:56 AM

Whats are the thoughts on a book Ultimate Steroid Cycles? By George Spellwin
I am about to purchase it and I was interested as anyone read it?

**MickeyKnox** · 11-25-2012, 07:02 AM

Not sure of your stats but since you're just researching, i would not spend money on a steroid book. I would simply bury myself in this website and educate myself on everything from "Ultimate" steroid cycles, to PCT's, to AI's, to hCG , to Nutrition, to Exercise programs,...ect.

Its all right here at your finger tips bro. Seriously, you don't need to spend any money at all if you don't want to. But if its easier to learn with a book in your hand, then yes by all means pick it up. Whatever is easier and works for you is the best approach.

In the meantime...

Nutritional Forum

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...M#.UHNufa7X_fs

How To Cut Thread

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UKSAuWfX_fs

How To BULK

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t#.UJJyq2fX_fs

Hard Gainers - Gaining Weight

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...!#.UISXU2fX_ft

Workouts and Lifting techniques

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...S#.UHnjba7X_fs

Most Common Beginners Cycles

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs

Educational Threads

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...S#.TzgpVFF3k34

Why HCG is So Important

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UIlhVWfX_ft

SERM, AI

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-AI-Definition

Estrogen Control, Treatment, and PCT

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t#.UJSEImfX_fs

Steroid Guide

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...e#.TzkpD1F3k34

Steroid Calculator.

http://www.roidcalc.com/

PCT Calculator.

http://pct.befit4free.net/index.php

Testosterone Calculator

http://www.issam.ch/freetesto.htm

**Lunk1** · 11-25-2012, 08:12 AM

There is a random cycle generator floating around here somewhere you may be able to use lol!

**fit2bOld** · 11-25-2012, 09:26 AM

I saw that, collect up a bunch of used gear and leftovers plug in the variables and bingo a cycle comes out.

**Lunk1** · 11-25-2012, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by fit2bOld

I saw that, collect up a bunch of used gear and leftovers plug in the variables and bingo a cycle comes out.

It sure would appear that way at times lol.

**marcus300** · 11-25-2012, 09:33 AM

Books are good but I've not read the one you mentioned. There is a lot of information on this site what is very valuable and wouldn't be in any books. My advice is read our stickies and education section then start posting threads asking questions on what you don't understand. It would help a lot if you have us your stats and some back ground information.

**rickard345** · 11-25-2012, 02:41 PM

Thanks for Info. Mickey and all others. Well apperciative, all that info is great.
My stats are as follows: Im 47, worked out all my life, did some gear in the 90's couple of cycles, This my 3rd round of test, deca , debol I go on for 8 weeks get off for 8. Have made some great gains but I'm not as educated as I believe I need to be so I been researching like crazy theres a shit load of info out there. So my goal is to cycle heathly. and enjoy my gains!

**MickeyKnox** · 11-25-2012, 02:45 PM

Your Deca needs to be run for at least 10 wks, but preferably 12-14.

**rickard345** · 11-25-2012, 02:50 PM

Why just the deca ?

**MickeyKnox** · 11-25-2012, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by rickard345

Why just the deca?

Not just the Deca . Im simply saying that Deca requires a lengthy cycle. It need to be run out because of the long ester and allow it to flex along with test.

**rickard345** · 11-25-2012, 04:28 PM

Got it
Thanks

**MickeyKnox** · 11-25-2012, 04:32 PM

Anytime mate.

**marcus300** · 11-25-2012, 04:34 PM

If you read the profile section it will tell you all about the individual steriods

**rickard345** · 11-26-2012, 04:08 AM

Thanks Marcus.

**lovbyts** · 11-26-2012, 04:56 AM

Keep reading and keep learning. I hate the saying ULTIMATE cycle. That sort of stuff is always asked but it's due to lack of understanding.

The ultimate cycle is different for everyone IMO. For MOST of the people, especially newbies here the ultimate cycle is 2 - 3 years of proper diet, training and education before touching any aas.

For some who have 3+ years of HARD training, proper diet and preferably over 25 a simple cycle of Test E at 400mg with an AI and PCT is the ultimate cycle.

For someone who has 15+ years training, perfect diet and does semi pro or pro competition maybe a Test, tren , mast, var cycle with a couple other things thrown in here and there but it would do no good for a beginner and maybe a lot of harm.

Ultimate means a lot of different things. Most people think ultimate means more/stronger but it couldnt be more wrong. Best results are based on individual history, genetics, diet and training.

**rickard345** · 11-26-2012, 12:41 PM

Thanks Lovbyts your post is well taken and downloaded.
I have worked-out for many years on and off. didnt work any gear then other then some cycles in the 90s, after some research have come to one conclusion,patience, gym time and good nutrition are key elements.
Thanks
Stay Heathly

**MickeyKnox** · 11-26-2012, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by rickard345

Thanks Lovbyts your post is well taken and downloaded.
I have worked-out for many years on and off. didnt work any gear then other then some cycles in the 90s, after some research have come to one conclusion,patience, gym time and good nutrition are key elements.
Thanks
Stay Heathly

Good for you buddy. Keep reading.

**jimmyinkedup** · 11-26-2012, 01:24 PM

I wouldn't use a book written by him to wipe my ass. Anyone that runs a site as corrupt as EF with the downright BS supp companies like NTBM spout off there with no regard to facts or even the users personal well being , all with the support of staff, can kiss my ass.

**MickeyKnox** · 11-26-2012, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup

I wouldn't use a book written by him to wipe my ass. Anyone that runs a site as corrupt as EF with the downright BS supp companies like NTBM spout off there with no regard to facts or even the users personal well being , all with the support of staff, can kiss my ass.

Tell us how you really feel Jimmy, dont hold back..lol