First cycle questions

**joey123** · 11-25-2012, 11:56 PM

hi just a quick question for my first cycle il be sticking to Test. I can either purchase 20 1ML vials of Test E (250mgs) or i can putchase 3 10ML vials of Test P. Which would be more effective for my first cycle ? i heard that 1ML vials are legit testostrone.

**Wes201** · 11-26-2012, 12:39 AM

welcome joey123, this board does not allow price discussions. you need to edit your post. As for your question, i would go with Test E, Prop is a pain in the ass. Literally. You have to pin it every other day

**red_hulk** · 11-26-2012, 12:48 AM

He's not really discussing price in my opinion, but you're prob better off editing just to be safe. First and foremost, what are you stats? to quickly answer the question, I would say the test e will be more than enough for a first cycle. The prop, like Wes said, is a pain you have to pin more frequently and if you aren't sure how you are with that yet it can be a problem. Not to mention you need to change pin sites, having at least four is deal (glutes and delts for instance). Do you have an ai or pct planned?

**cro** · 11-26-2012, 08:04 AM

test e 4 sure

**Lunk1** · 11-26-2012, 08:59 AM

your only going to get 8-9 weeks out of that amount of test E @ 500mg per week!

You will also be short of a decent cycle of prop @ 400mg EW with that amount.

Whatever you decide....get a bit more

**Myers** · 11-26-2012, 09:15 AM

One a bit offtopic question(doing a research) - can u do both test p and E (propionate on weeks 1-4) so u don't need to w8 for test E to kick in?

**red_hulk** · 11-26-2012, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by Myers

One a bit offtopic question(doing a research) - can u do both test p and E (propionate on weeks 1-4) so u don't need to w8 for test E to kick in?

Start your own thread dude.

**Lunk1** · 11-26-2012, 10:28 AM

I agree with Red Hulk on starting your own thread but to answer your question, yes you can front load with prop although you would still use Test E at the same time...this will allow for a faster blood level saturation from the prop while waiting for the test E to "kick in"...you can also end the cycle with prop which in the ops case might be a great idea given the amount he has access to. You would use the same dose of prop for the last 2 weeks and drop the E thus allowing for a faster (3 days vs 14 days) tansition to PCT!