1st Tren.E + Test.E cycle.

[BlueWaffle21]

Give this a read, maybe even 2 or 3 times!

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ctively-thread!

[songdog]

Tren on 2nd cycle isnt smart.But its your decision run tren @300 test @ 300mg 12 weeks.Run your ai like Adex@ .25eod to start.Pct nova and clomid.Run HCG on cycle 250ius 2x a week.Have your diet checked out by the diet section for max results.

[anahny]

Tren on 2nd cycle isnt smart.But its your decision run tren @300 test @ 300mg 12 weeks.Run your ai like Adex@ .25eod to start.Pct nova and clomid.Run HCG on cycle 250ius 2x a week.Have your diet checked out by the diet section for max results.

I found 150mg test and 300mg tren was ideal for me. Second cycle wow, but like snogdog said it's your decision. Just make sure you read the link provided and have everything ready before you start cycle. And to answer your questions you should start noticing sides within the first week. You will begin to see muscle pump by 2nd and strength increase by 3rd.

[Lunk1]

5'11" 180lbs...I would give Test/Deca a shot and see you you react to a 19nor that is not as harsh to deal with like Tren . Plus Deca is a hell of a great compound to run while bulking and I assume thats your plan??

[Lunk1]

Yes, but Deca has the very FAKE looking effects

Fake looking effect??? What is fake??? Have you used it???

[clarky.]

Fake looking. Lmao

[Lunk1]

I mean that you look too bulky.. like you can tell you've used something..
And no, I haven't used it. But it's what I have heard, and that it's also a lot of water gain.. which of course you get water retention with any, but you know what I mean.. more than normal and that's a lot of the factor of what makes you look bulky.

Holding water is controlled by use of an AI and quality diet...and to use a great quote from the man, the myth, the lengend Gixx! If ppl can't tell your on steroids , your doing it wrong lol!

[stpete]

Deca 's a great compound and i recommend it as well. Much milder than tren w/great results. Watch your sodium, drink your water w/a strict diet and train hard. Or you could go w/NPP. Another great compound.

[gixxerboy1]

Holding water is controlled by use of an AI and quality diet...and to use a great quote from the man, the myth, the lengend Gixx! If ppl can't tell your on steroids, your doing it wrong lol!

i agree with everything Lunk said. diet and ai can control water retention.
And that im a legend lol

[TexasGiant1177]

Run test/deca your body type with tren will be detrimental to weight gain. just finished a tren e/test c cycle. Kinda pointless under 400mg a week i decided on the tren E. I was running 300mg a week for awhile then pumped and it started to kick pretty nice.