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    what would a pro BB steroid cycle look like ????

    just for the record i have no intension of running a cycle like these pro BB but was just wondering what a typical steroid cycle would be for say zack khan, phil heath, alex lesukov etc. dose wise ????

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    Nobody knows man, it would just be speculation. Lots and lots of growth, slin, and gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyguy6661
    just for the record i have no intension of running a cycle like these pro bb but was just wondering what a typical steroid cycle would be for say zack khan, phil heath, alex lesukov etc. Dose wise ????
    never ending cycle!!

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    Pro BBs don't cycle steroids , they stay on them throughout the year at different doses depending on specific goals within their competition schedule (such as bulking & cutting phases), they introduce different compounds in accordance with their needs during those phases...

    Although it would be very unrealistic to expect from a pro BB who is recognized on an international level to fully reveal his routine of synthetic hormone administration, it doesn't take a genius to make a pretty close guess at least regarding what compounds are the most dominant in that routine: if we are talking IFBB level here, you are looking at tens of units of HGH and several units of insulin on a daily basis, then lots of Test, Nandrolone and Trenbelone (most likely with long esters attached during off-season). Hardening agents such as Winstrol , Masteron and/or Anavar are introduced to their routines as they get closer to the day of competition, again with lots of Test and Tren still present in there as for the AAS part of the routine, and non-steroidal agents with fat burning and partially anabolic qualities such as Clenbuterol will typically be introduced to their routines during this phase...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misery13 View Post
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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    hahaha...This. Maybe not the ER trip, but most definitely a doc's visit. And yeah, they are on so much stuff year round it would make your head swim. I saw a pic of Chris Cormier just the other day. Apparently he's off everything, looks good and solid but no where he used to be. Kind of eye opening. I found the pic.

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    - Several grams of test year round
    - 15IU+ of HGH year round
    - Blasting Slin on and off
    - Probably Tren and Deca year round
    - Blasting things like orals and other injectables on and off

    Test, Tren, Deca, HGH and slin are probably the mainstays.

    Also lots of diuretics ect near comps.

    That would be my guess.

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    I don't see them ever going off slin, or maybe like a month after a show or something. when you get that big your body can't make enough natural insulin to support all the muscle, any pro would shrink fast if they dropped there slin. They also take so much growth they have to take a lot of slin just to counteract the high blood glucose. I think high high doses of pharm growth and lots of slin are the main thing that allow these guys to get so huge. There really is no way at all to tell, not all guys run the same stuff. I know quite a few national level heavyweights and supers and there choice in gear varies a ton. I remember reading That nick trigili said antoinne vaillant was running like 30ius of hgh a day for the nationals. I have no idea if it's true but I wouldn't be surprised. I know guys that can step on stage at 230lbs without running much slin during their diet where some guys run 40-50ius a day or more right up to their show. I only know a few high level competitors that I can trust 100% when they tell me what they're running, everyone else I just take with a grain of salt. Most people lie about their doses to make themselves feel better. To step on stage at 5'8-9" 230+ 4-5% bf you have to be on grams of gear, slin, and gh. I really doubt that anyone has good enough genetics to do this on just moderate doses of aas and no slin or gh. I know a guy that's one of the bigger sources here and a top local competitor that likes to claim he takes 500mg of prop and some dbol , but then I hear about how he's on 2grams of test and bangs slin all day. You get to a point if you blast/cruise high doses where you just can't grow anymore and you start realizing what it takes to keep gaining. I was able to hit 185lbs, around 7% on a few grams of aas alone before I started incorporating slin and peptides. There was a time I wanted to be a pro but I realized after having absolutely no life spending every minute eating, taking 10ius of slin in the am and 20ius pre workout, and feeling like a zombie all day from the high aas doses that it's just not worth it for me. A lot of the big guys have to take so many different things to counteract the sides from all the gear, it's just unhealthy. Xanax is a must for most on high high doses of tren , adderall to keep you awake all day, ghb to sleep. Not everyone is like this but it's eye opening when you start to find out what really goes on.

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    what a complete waste, just do the Mark Walberg system... Tons of food and lots of training is good for 40lbs naturally every 2 months =)

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    LMAO!!! You were being funny right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knockout_Power View Post
    what a complete waste, just do the Mark Walberg system... Tons of food and lots of training is good for 40lbs naturally every 2 months =)

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    probably during a blast they run close to2g of gear ew per compound 2-4 compounds

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    Or more, just remember this BB chick at the gym says she does 1 1/2g of test ew and that's a chick

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    Pro BBs always look so healthy and virile during interviews ect. I'd love to know what is really going on with their health on the inside, how much AAS, peptides and prescription meds they are taking. I bet some need big doses of Viagra just to get it up and lots of sleeping pills to fall asleep at night, it takes a special person to live that sort of life. Even the pinning, imagine pinning 350mg of different substances ED for 20 years, then HGH and slin 3-4 times per day taken sub Q.

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    I know you must wear a lot of hats, a chemist, a doctor, a nutritionalist, a cook, a trainer, etc. etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BR0DIE View Post
    Pro BBs always look so healthy and virile during interviews ect. I'd love to know what is really going on with their health on the inside, how much AAS, peptides and prescription meds they are taking. I bet some need big doses of Viagra just to get it up and lots of sleeping pills to fall asleep at night, it takes a special person to live that sort of life. Even the pinning, imagine pinning 350mg of different substances ED for 20 years, then HGH and slin 3-4 times per day taken sub Q.
    They look healthy mostly because;

    - They are usually tan,
    - There is a lot of Test and HGH running through their veins, giving them that particular virile look, as if they are teenagers with natty hormones boosting naturally,
    - They do what they love, which is another reason for them to give out that ''bouncily'' vibe.

    They are definitely on;

    - Blood thinners,
    - Anti-inflammatory medicines,
    - Painkillers,
    - Muscle relaxers,
    - Sleeping pills,
    - BP meds,

    They have to follow a typical weekly routine of;

    - Visits to their chiropractors,
    - Deep tissue massage sessions,
    - Medial massage sessions.

    I am sure I have missed a few angles here and there but hey, I did my best to bring forward the picture
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knockout_Power View Post
    what a complete waste, just do the Mark Walberg system... Tons of food and lots of training is good for 40lbs naturally every 2 months =)
    Haha x2
    He looked better when he wasn't so heavy. He holds so much water now

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    Quote Originally Posted by delcapone View Post
    I know you must wear a lot of hats, a chemist, a doctor, a nutritionalist, a cook, a trainer, etc. etc.
    Never thought if it this way but so true

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    I hear you on knowing whats really going on behind the scenes with these pros and how unhealthy the lifestyle really is, but have you or anyone here for that matter seen gary strydom as of late? The guy is 52 and look at him! He still at least "looks" great! What do you think the differnece is between some of these pros like him who can carry that great body and conditioning into their fifties (ala serge nubret as well) and the guys like flex wheeler, or cormier who don't look anything like they used to? If you want to see what I mean regarding strydom, look at his facebook, he looks insane at 52


    Quote Originally Posted by alexISthrowed View Post
    I don't see them ever going off slin, or maybe like a month after a show or something. when you get that big your body can't make enough natural insulin to support all the muscle, any pro would shrink fast if they dropped there slin. They also take so much growth they have to take a lot of slin just to counteract the high blood glucose. I think high high doses of pharm growth and lots of slin are the main thing that allow these guys to get so huge. There really is no way at all to tell, not all guys run the same stuff. I know quite a few national level heavyweights and supers and there choice in gear varies a ton. I remember reading That nick trigili said antoinne vaillant was running like 30ius of hgh a day for the nationals. I have no idea if it's true but I wouldn't be surprised. I know guys that can step on stage at 230lbs without running much slin during their diet where some guys run 40-50ius a day or more right up to their show. I only know a few high level competitors that I can trust 100% when they tell me what they're running, everyone else I just take with a grain of salt. Most people lie about their doses to make themselves feel better. To step on stage at 5'8-9" 230+ 4-5% bf you have to be on grams of gear, slin, and gh. I really doubt that anyone has good enough genetics to do this on just moderate doses of aas and no slin or gh. I know a guy that's one of the bigger sources here and a top local competitor that likes to claim he takes 500mg of prop and some dbol, but then I hear about how he's on 2grams of test and bangs slin all day. You get to a point if you blast/cruise high doses where you just can't grow anymore and you start realizing what it takes to keep gaining. I was able to hit 185lbs, around 7% on a few grams of aas alone before I started incorporating slin and peptides. There was a time I wanted to be a pro but I realized after having absolutely no life spending every minute eating, taking 10ius of slin in the am and 20ius pre workout, and feeling like a zombie all day from the high aas doses that it's just not worth it for me. A lot of the big guys have to take so many different things to counteract the sides from all the gear, it's just unhealthy. Xanax is a must for most on high high doses of tren, adderall to keep you awake all day, ghb to sleep. Not everyone is like this but it's eye opening when you start to find out what really goes on.

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    : 10-0 semanas antes de la competencia el tomo diariamente:
    : EPHEDRINA, AN 1, CAPTAGON, ASPIRINA, VALIUM, CLENBUTEROL , HORMONA TIROIDEA.
    : 10-6 semanas antes de la competencia diariamente:
    : 2 inyecciones de Testoviron 250mg.
    : 1 inyección de Paravolan
    : 30 tabletas de Halotestin
    : 30 tabletas de Metandienou (Dianavol de Tailandi)
    : 20 IE hormona crecimiento
    : 20 IE insulina
    : 5-3 semanas antes de la competencia diariamente:
    : 3 inyecciones de Masteron
    : 2 inyecciones de Parabolan
    : 30 tabletas de Halotestin
    : 50 tabletas de Stromba
    : 2 inyecciones de Stromba
    : 24 IE hormona crecimiento
    : 20 IE insulina.
    : 2-1 semana antes de la competencia diariamente:
    : 2 inyecciones de Masteron
    : 2 inyecciones de Stromba
    : 40 tabletas de Halotestin
    : 80 tabletas de Stromba
    : 24 IE hormona crecimiento
    : 20 IE Insulina
    : IGF.
    : UNOS CUANTOS DIAS ANTES DE LA COMPETENCIA: ALDACTONE, LAXIS.


    this is what I found about Munzer. dont follow this cycle because he died. Its amazing, some says he was on DNP too. I think they take some Synthol too, for very lttle corrections

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    Quote Originally Posted by XxAndreaxX View Post
    : 10-0 semanas antes de la competencia el tomo diariamente:
    : EPHEDRINA, AN 1, CAPTAGON, ASPIRINA, VALIUM, CLENBUTEROL , HORMONA TIROIDEA.
    : 10-6 semanas antes de la competencia diariamente:
    : 2 inyecciones de Testoviron 250mg.
    : 1 inyección de Paravolan
    : 30 tabletas de Halotestin
    : 30 tabletas de Metandienou (Dianavol de Tailandi)
    : 20 IE hormona crecimiento
    : 20 IE insulina
    : 5-3 semanas antes de la competencia diariamente:
    : 3 inyecciones de Masteron
    : 2 inyecciones de Parabolan
    : 30 tabletas de Halotestin
    : 50 tabletas de Stromba
    : 2 inyecciones de Stromba
    : 24 IE hormona crecimiento
    : 20 IE insulina.
    : 2-1 semana antes de la competencia diariamente:
    : 2 inyecciones de Masteron
    : 2 inyecciones de Stromba
    : 40 tabletas de Halotestin
    : 80 tabletas de Stromba
    : 24 IE hormona crecimiento
    : 20 IE Insulina
    : IGF.
    : UNOS CUANTOS DIAS ANTES DE LA COMPETENCIA: ALDACTONE, LAXIS.

    this is what I found about Munzer. dont follow this cycle because he died. Its amazing, some says he was on DNP too. I think they take some Synthol too, for very lttle corrections
    Unless you know Spanish this cycle may be hard to follow anyways

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