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    aSami is offline New Member
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    Starting a second cycle.. Jump in please!

    Hello All

    I'm 8 weeks now on the below cycle and I'm not liking the results so far. So I will not go into the PCT and will start a second cycle a couple of months after this one is over:
    week 1 to 12 - sust @ 500 ew (250 twice)
    week 1 to 10 - deca @ 300 ew
    week 1 to 12 - dex @ .25 EOD
    week 1 to 12 - HCG @ 500iu ew (250 twice)
    week 6 to 14 - var @ 80mg ED

    Wanna try the trenbolone and dianabol . Sust 250 sux in terms of bad PIP

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    90 Kgs
    ~12% bf
    Been on and off for way long yrs now.

    MY TARGET IS TO HAVE A NICE BULK BEFORE SUMMER

    I was planning to try this cycle (modified from the original one on this site, just replace winstrol by dianabol):

    wk 1-12 Testosterone -Propionate @ 100mg/eod Trenbolone-Acetate @ 75mg/eod DBol @ 50mg/ed Adex @ 0.5mg/eod

    Any ideas?

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    I think you should be a bit more patient with your cycle and keep going. Deca takes about 8 weeks for it to really start showing. The idea of no pct is not a good one because most likely you will still be shut down for a long time and that's we're the risks of permanent damage may occur. IMO your cycle looks good stick with it

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    If you arent happy with this cycle what makes you think tren will be any different. Typically if you have a well planned out cycle (your looks fine) and it doesnt go well it's either #1 your diet way off, #2 your training was off, #3 your gear is under dosed or fake (need blood-work during cycle).

    Not doing a PCT and jumping into another cycle is not the best plan for sure.

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    Your current cycle looks good and bytes is 100%! Your looking to bulk but many find tren to be hard on your appetite. The cycle your on is a great cycle to do as you desire...fix the diet!

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    That's a good cycle bro. Sust and deca is a nice combo. I've had great results with that pair personally takes a bit longer for the deca to kick. As Lovbyts and Lunk suggest take a look at you nutrition and workout regimen. I see a lot of guys overtrain on cycle and end up exhausted check that as well.

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    Agree with the above. It's time to reevaluate your diet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Agree with the above. It's time to reevaluate your diet.
    ^^^ X2 How is your nutrition?

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    How tall are you?

    I dont believe for a minute youve outgrown your first cycle. And therefore i dont agree with this cycle at all.

    You dont require Deca , Sust, and Var to achieve your intended goals. You can do this easily with a quality Test cycle and a solid diet. Adding more compounds and an oral will not bulk you up. You need to eat properly, eat a lot, and eat clean. AAS speeds up the healing process, it doesn't make you gain weight.

    Like the others suggested, head over to the Nutritional Forums and have you diet looked at by one the Specialists there. They will assist you in determining a spot on and dialed in diet that will produce the gains and achieve the goals you are looking for.

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    You're too far in not to run PCT if you decide to stop. Run a PCT and take proper time off before starting another one. Re evaluate your diet like others have mentioned.

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    aSami is offline New Member
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    Thanks all. So I see you all agree on my alleged faulty diet. I would agree as well, as I travel a lot so it's likely that I miss on sometimes.
    S I guess I'll have to check on the nutrition forum and fix it.

    Again thanks a lot for the prompt response, you are all good people

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