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    Thumbs up to the guys who suggested using the 250mg dose. I personally love using 250-300mg test e cycles. Sides are non existent, and recovery seems quicker. Besides.....you can always up the dose later.

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    Switch to something like rum and diet coke when out with the homies. 1 rum n coke then 2-3 just cokes repeat as needed.
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    stpete, thanks for your reply and i completely agree with you. it's gonna be hard though when i'm kicking it with the homies and everyone is making fun of me because i've only had a couple beers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsEpSiS View Post
    Thumbs up to the guys who suggested using the 250mg dose. I personally love using 250-300mg test e cycles. Sides are non existent, and recovery seems quicker. Besides.....you can always up the dose later.
    Asepsis, thanks for your input brother! what kinds of gains do you experience at such a low dose? also, do you take an AI at such a low dose cycle? i have arimidex on hand but i'm not sure if it's really necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canesfan804 View Post
    Switch to something like rum and diet coke when out with the homies. 1 rum n coke then 2-3 just cokes repeat as needed.
    canesfan804, thanks for your response bro! bud light is our beer of choice so rum and coke is not really an option.

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    Lunk1, thanks for your input bro! i'll keep your advice in mind when i finally decide to start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by junior View Post
    Asepsis, thanks for your input brother! what kinds of gains do you experience at such a low dose? also, do you take an AI at such a low dose cycle? i have arimidex on hand but i'm not sure if it's really necessary.
    Odds are you will still need a low dose AI on that protocol. EOD would probably be over-kill. You very well may be able to get by with dosing your adex 24hrs after each injection and be fine, assuming it's a twice a week protocol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Odds are you will still need a low dose AI on that protocol. EOD would probably be over-kill. You very well may be able to get by with dosing your adex 24hrs after each injection and be fine, assuming it's a twice a week protocol.
    kelkel, i was gonna do .25 arimidex eod but since you don't suggest it i'll stick with maybe just twice per week. thanks!

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    I gained a good 10lbs...I'm sure it wasn't ALL muscle. That being said, i had zero side effects + good/modest strength gains. I didn't use an ai, but I definantly should have. My next cycle I'll be using adex as kelkel suggested. His ai dosing protocol for the low dose test cycle makes a ton of sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by junior View Post
    kelkel, i was gonna do .25 arimidex eod but since you don't suggest it i'll stick with maybe just twice per week. thanks!
    Junior just do the math. An AI protocol for 500mg test per week is on average .25 eod. Your planning half that amount. Crashing your E is no fun. Ask anyone who's done it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    I have to say i dont agree. 250 mgs can give good gains. Most who are sayong no probablt never tried it. I did for first cycle and wad.more then happy. And 250 mg is more then what u produce normally. And hifher then a trt dose. Im on 100mg every 5th day for trt and dr wants to lower it because im over 1100 on bw
    have to agree with the above i ran 250 mgs for 16 weeks Test e ,and had brilliant results . i had been on Nebido(for 6 months) before this and followed all the correct protocol and got nothing didn't even effect my libido

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    Quote Originally Posted by junior View Post
    I've read in several articles that a mere 250mg/week of test cyp in human grade form can produce excellent gains for the beginner (assuming that the diet is in check). Although many of you say at least 400mg/week is the bare minimum. Can anyone please give me some insight on this? I'm not trying to get huge like Arnold, I just need something to take me to the next level. I figured for my very first cycle I'll start off low (250mg/week x's 8 weeks) and if I decide that I want more results, my second cycle will be 400mg/week. Also, is an AI really necessary during cycle at such a low dose of 250mg/week? I have arimidex on hand because I REALLY REALLY don't want to get gyno among other side effects. Maybe .25mg arimidex every other day just to be on the safe side? As far as my stats: 5'9", 175lbs, about 10% body fat. Thanks for your opinions/comments!
    According to your profile you are 34, so your test levels are probably lower than guys in thier 20. I will be that you will see a nice benefit from 250MG/wk. Have you considered adding an anabolic agent to this? Perhaps deca ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsEpSiS View Post
    I gained a good 10lbs...I'm sure it wasn't ALL muscle. That being said, i had zero side effects + good/modest strength gains. I didn't use an ai, but I definantly should have. My next cycle I'll be using adex as kelkel suggested. His ai dosing protocol for the low dose test cycle makes a ton of sense.
    asepsis, thanks again for taking the time to give me some advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by choker28 View Post
    have to agree with the above i ran 250 mgs for 16 weeks Test e ,and had brilliant results . i had been on Nebido(for 6 months) before this and followed all the correct protocol and got nothing didn't even effect my libido
    choker28, thanks for your response bro! i'm running test cyp but i read that they are virtually identical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenie View Post
    According to your profile you are 34, so your test levels are probably lower than guys in thier 20. I will be that you will see a nice benefit from 250MG/wk. Have you considered adding an anabolic agent to this? Perhaps deca?
    beenie, thanks for your response bro! since this will be my very first cycle i wanted to keep it as simple as possible. maybe i'll add something to my second or third cycle but for now i just want to do test only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by junior

    beenie, thanks for your response bro! since this will be my very first cycle i wanted to keep it as simple as possible. maybe i'll add something to my second or third cycle but for now i just want to do test only.
    And so you should, good answer. Get to know how your body reacts to test first before adding more compounds

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    to my new found family who took the time to shed some light on this topic, THANK YOU! as a newcomer to AAS it can be very intimidating but all of you have eased some of that pain. regardless of what dosage i decide to start with, the only way i'll find the answer is to just man up and start my cycle already. hopefully some day in the future i'll have enough experience so that i can guide others like you all have with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsiv View Post
    And so you should, good answer. Get to know how your body reacts to test first before adding more compounds
    bigsiv, thanks for your input bro! i didn't want to go all out on my first cycle, slow and simple is what i need for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by junior View Post
    to my new found family who took the time to shed some light on this topic, THANK YOU! as a newcomer to AAS it can be very intimidating but all of you have eased some of that pain. regardless of what dosage i decide to start with, the only way i'll find the answer is to just man up and start my cycle already. hopefully some day in the future i'll have enough experience so that i can guide others like you all have with me.
    Above in bold sums up exactly why this board is so effective.

    Pay it forward!

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    Quote Originally Posted by junior
    bigsiv, thanks for your input bro! i didn't want to go all out on my first cycle, slow and simple is what i need for now.
    Slow and simple is what works as well!!!
    I think you will end up a very good member. Some very well educated and experienced guys on this site who have your best intentions at heart. Good luck junior!

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