What were your first cycle results

**Unclesam2** · 12-26-2012, 12:57 PM

Well im 26 years old and am about to start up my first test-e only cycle and I just got a few questions for all you guys about your results for your first cycle

How old were you?
What did you run?
How much did you weigh before/after?
how much weight did you hold onto post cycle?
any suggestions that maybe you did wrong?
any sides?

I just wanna kinda figure out what expected results are for somebodys first cycle since im sitting at 6'0 182 at like 11% bf after 4.5 years of training and about to start mine

**Bio-Active** · 12-26-2012, 01:02 PM

Put on 15lbs and kept 7 of it

**Bio-Active** · 12-26-2012, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by jim230027

Put on 15lbs and kept 7 of it

Make sure your diet is on check before even considering a cycle

**Unclesam2** · 12-26-2012, 01:19 PM

my diets in check, I dont necessarily calculate every macro to the T, but I do have a good idea on what im putting in my body every day, and know what I need to consume to gain/lose weight.

**Turkish Juicer** · 12-26-2012, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by Unclesam2

Well im 26 years old and am about to start up my first test-e only cycle and I just got a few questions for all you guys about your results for your first cycle

How old were you? 25
What did you run?Pharm grade Sustanon 250 @500mg for 12 weeks
How much did you weigh before/after? 150/175
how much weight did you hold onto post cycle?10
any suggestions that maybe you did wrong?Sustanon was the wrong choice for me. I hated the PIP, I hated the fact that I had to wait for almost 3 weeks before I could start my PCT. Lack of an AI led to significant bloating issues, some acne, no gyno -thankfully. Lost a lot of water weight during PCT, so I shrunk and morale was down due to this.
any sides?Testicular atrophy other than issues stated above. No HCG was administered during cycle or after.

I just wanna kinda figure out what expected results are for somebodys first cycle since im sitting at 6'0 182 at like 11% bf after 4.5 years of training and about to start mine

You can't possibly figure out what expected results are for somebody's first cycle since there are way to many variables that will determine the outcome. 4.5 years of staying natty and training is all good, but I highly recommend you also spend more time reading, asking and educating yourself more before you get in the AAS game.

**Unclesam2** · 12-26-2012, 01:39 PM

ive been researching for the last 2 years, and have my cycle pretty much laid out, I made this thread primarily for a general knowledge thread for the rest of the community since these are questions many people do have when looking to begin a cycle and can really give insight from experienced members on this site.

**DeadlyD** · 12-26-2012, 01:45 PM

Dropped from 21% bf to 16% and gained 10 lean pounds kept all of it kept almost all of my strengh gains, all and all great success!

**Turkish Juicer** · 12-26-2012, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Unclesam2

ive been researching for the last 2 years, and have my cycle pretty much laid out, I made this thread primarily for a general knowledge thread for the rest of the community since these are questions many people do have when looking to begin a cycle and can really give insight from experienced members on this site.

Would you share your cycle layout with us, then?

**Unclesam2** · 12-26-2012, 02:02 PM

Weeks 1-12: 500mg test e (250mg administered twice weekly)
Weeks 5-14: HCG 250iu twice weekly
Weeks 15-18: Clomid 100/100/50/50
Weeks 15-18: Nolva 40/40/20/20

was considering incorporating dbol for the first 4 weeks but for my first cycle I don't think it is needed, I have heard from many people that have ran both that stated that they should have only ran the test. Plus I would like to stay as side free as possible.
What are your thoughts on adding dbol as apposed to just test-e?

Originally Posted by Turkish Juicer

Would you share your cycle layout with us, then?

**Unclesam2** · 12-26-2012, 07:03 PM

anybody else wanna leave an input?

**fit2bOld** · 12-26-2012, 07:17 PM

There is no AI in the cycle. Explain.

**Unclesam2** · 12-26-2012, 07:33 PM

Armomasin will be on hand, but I didnt include it here since I dont know how I am going to dose it since im gonna base it on my sides/when they come up

**DigitalGorilla** · 12-27-2012, 01:34 AM

AT 33 my first cycle was 14 weeks of Var and 10 weeks of Test E --- (along with HCG , Armdex, b12) and i dropped a total of 23 lbs while on cycle and went from about 27% to 19%...... and my stregnth gains were huge - most of which I kept.....

sorry - quoted wrong stats before

**Turkish Juicer** · 12-27-2012, 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by Unclesam2

Armomasin will be on hand, but I didnt include it here since I dont know how I am going to dose it since im gonna base it on my sides/when they come up

Wrong.

This is exactly why I asked for your cycle layout.

For someone who has been researching for 2 years, you should have known better that you start your AI the first day of your cycle and run it up until PCT.

**DigitalGorilla** · 12-27-2012, 01:37 AM

I agree - you need some adex in there from the start.

**Turkish Juicer** · 12-27-2012, 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by Unclesam2

Weeks 1-12: 500mg test e (250mg administered twice weekly)
Weeks 5-14: HCG 250iu twice weekly
Weeks 15-18: Clomid 100/100/50/50
Weeks 15-18: Nolva 40/40/20/20

was considering incorporating dbol for the first 4 weeks but for my first cycle I don't think it is needed, I have heard from many people that have ran both that stated that they should have only ran the test. Plus I would like to stay as side free as possible.
What are your thoughts on adding dbol as apposed to just test-e?

Just run Test E for your first cycle and see how your body responds to pure injectable Test.

Stacking multiple compounds usually lead to experiencing multiple-sides and a newbie should have the opportunity to observe which side belongs to which compound, which becomes an impossible task when a newbie starts stacking from the very 1st cycle, hence stick to a single compound and see what happens.

**Alinjr** · 12-27-2012, 10:23 AM

test e-gained 25, kept 18-20

**bp2000** · 12-27-2012, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by Unclesam2

Armomasin will be on hand, but I didnt include it here since I dont know how I am going to dose it since im gonna base it on my sides/when they come up

on hand? you need to be taking that shit day 1 through PCT. You are uneducated on AAS use if you think you use an AI when sides come up. Estrogen is more supressive than Test. You need to control it from the start and it will help you come time for PCT when you need to unsupress yourself and start natural production. It all goes together. If you let your E2 get out of hand you will get bloating, possible acne, gyno, loss of libido, and it will supress your HPTA and it will take longer for your natural test to kick back in and you will lose all your gains in that interium period and will be dpressed. Use HCG as well to combat testicular atrophy.

**Unclesam2** · 01-05-2013, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by alinshop

test e-gained 25, kept 18-20

anybody else want to throw their results out there?

**sc2only** · 01-05-2013, 07:40 PM

I was 145. And being ignorant to reccommendations of vets. Did 450 mg a week of test prop with proper pct. got to 179. When i got off was 168 in morning. Now i been off for 5 months and im 181 naturally from 168. Good strength. 5'10 and prob 15% bf. or less. Trying to get to 190 naturally before i dip into another cycle. Before my cycle was 13 pts test. Now im 12. So went down a bit but was alrdy low. Borderline hrt. My next cycle gna be 500 mg test enth and 30 mg dbol a day. Ill report back later.

**Flawdaboy** · 01-05-2013, 07:57 PM

Test e for 8 wks gained 20 pounds lost everything due to no PCT and horrible diet, and when i say horrible i mean horrible i ate alot but never once the right stuff. I used no AI during cycle used pom juice to up my natty test. So i was very stupid as you can see, and your AI should be run from stat and id say 0.25mg EOD of it, And you should only run test no dbol .

**Unclesam2** · 01-06-2013, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Flawdaboy

Test e for 8 wks gained 20 pounds lost everything due to no PCT and horrible diet, and when i say horrible i mean horrible i ate alot but never once the right stuff. I used no AI during cycle used pom juice to up my natty test. So i was very stupid as you can see, and your AI should be run from stat and id say 0.25mg EOD of it, And you should only run test no dbol.

thats just poor execution